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(it doesn't have to be you) 2008-06-05T11:08:24 assuming he can be in town whenever it is, Bill can 2008-06-05T11:11:10 haha 2008-06-05T11:11:15 VP of Buck Passing 2008-06-05T11:11:35 berick: what do you think? 2008-06-05T11:11:45 VP of Not Writing Much ACQ Code (berick++ djfiander++) 2008-06-05T11:12:08 he's doing some training right now ... so, I'm sure he's unavailable 2008-06-05T11:12:15 vp for keepin' it real 2008-06-05T11:15:45 so i guess we should shoot for mid july at this point? 2008-06-05T11:18:31 that's the earliest we would be available, yep 2008-06-05T11:22:22 ok, great -- i'll send out another email to the potential suckers^W presenters 2008-06-05T11:39:59 thanks! 2008-06-05T11:57:59 hey guys, what does Electronic Resource search format map to in the MARC? 2008-06-05T11:58:42 and how easy is it to change? 2008-06-05T12:02:17 sec 2008-06-05T12:04:02 metabib.rec_descriptor.item_form = 's', 008/23; 006/06 OR 008/29; 008/12 2008-06-05T12:04:16 http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd008c.html 2008-06-05T12:04:18 depending on record type for the alternate positions 2008-06-05T12:04:25 :) 2008-06-05T12:04:33 or http://www.oclc.org/bibformats/en/fixedfield/form.shtm 2008-06-05T12:07:30 hmm - so oclc defines meaning for what LoC specifies as undefined (in the case of computer files/electronic resources) 2008-06-05T12:07:59 library_standards-- (or my lack of understanding of them--) 2008-06-05T12:08:47 oclc+- # for "interpreting" the rules 2008-06-05T12:09:33 * dbs tries running reporter for the first time in ages 2008-06-05T12:10:24 :) 2008-06-05T12:11:23 have a demo to give this afternoon, and should probably have it working for armenia 2008-06-05T12:21:04 at some point I really have to figure out / document examples of the freshmeat feeds and other coolness; "axis" stumped me today 2008-06-05T12:34:04 heya phasefx - that xul/server munging that happens at build time should probably munge reports/oils_rpt_folder_window.js too eh? 2008-06-05T12:49:11 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-05T12:54:45 some day I'll get reporter working. grr. 2008-06-05T12:55:21 dbs: anything I can do to help? 2008-06-05T12:55:40 or are you stuck in cpan hell... 2008-06-05T12:55:46 CPAN is no problem 2008-06-05T12:55:55 it all seems to be apache config-related 2008-06-05T12:56:08 *** asmodai has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-06-05T12:56:24 I can get to the proxy if I manually specify /reporter/ (with the slash on the end, but then I can't view anything 2008-06-05T12:56:36 just get 404's after logging in 2008-06-05T12:57:38 https://biblio-dev.laurentian.ca//xul/20080603.005501/server/util/rbrowser.xul?url=/reporter/1/3/3/report-data.html fails 2008-06-05T12:58:33 because https://biblio-dev.laurentian.ca/reporter/1/3/3/report-data.html fails (although in desperation I aliased /reporter to /openils/var/reporter, I suppose I could alias it to /openils/var/reporter/output 2008-06-05T12:59:52 now took the trailing slash off the entry... bah. 2008-06-05T13:01:23 Hmm. maybe those things together can make it work 2008-06-05T13:02:28 yeah - I think that will do it. eg_vhost.conf might be able to use some tweaking to make this easier. 2008-06-05T13:03:24 there's a slash on ours... 2008-06-05T13:03:55 also, no output subdirectory ... 2008-06-05T13:04:53 in opensrf.conf.example, the output value is /openils/var/web/reporter/output 2008-06-05T13:04:58 I see... we've got a confusing setup, where the web server mounts /openils/var/web/reporter/output from the db server at /openils/var/web/reporter/ 2008-06-05T13:06:04 so, if you just change your output_base to be /openils/var/web/reporter (and move the contents of output) you should be good 2008-06-05T13:06:13 and the example config should change, I guess 2008-06-05T13:06:24 sorry :( 2008-06-05T13:08:05 well, who knows how much I messed stuff up on the way down this path 2008-06-05T13:08:34 It looks like I screwed up the filter options with the i18n stuff 2008-06-05T13:10:46 but at least I have some basic bits working 2008-06-05T13:12:14 dbs: there still a presentation today? 2008-06-05T13:12:23 yessir 2008-06-05T13:12:25 2:00 pm 2008-06-05T13:12:56 im preparing by previewing your couch db presentation 2008-06-05T13:13:21 kbeswick: oh dear 2008-06-05T13:16:31 dbs: where is the presentation? orientation room? 2008-06-05T13:16:47 Properly referred to as the "Instruction room", yes :) 2008-06-05T13:17:30 excellent 2008-06-05T13:24:23 there's nothing like the voice of dbs in your head while you work. 2008-06-05T13:24:35 tell me about it! 2008-06-05T13:28:44 dbs: I was listening to your couchdb presentation yesterday *8) 2008-06-05T13:30:49 cooch, you mean 2008-06-05T13:54:35 okay, pres time 2008-06-05T14:45:28 eeevil: working on jangle connector docs 2008-06-05T14:45:43 rsinger++!!!!! 2008-06-05T14:46:15 rsinger: btw, we should have ruby bindings for OpenSRF soon-ish, in which case I plan to simply port your demo connector ;) 2008-06-05T14:46:26 equinox++ 2008-06-05T14:46:40 no no. U-Windsor++ 2008-06-05T14:46:40 lazy_development++ 2008-06-05T14:46:52 now that I can second 2008-06-05T14:47:12 townxelliott gave a presentation entitled that last week at our internal conference :) 2008-06-05T14:47:44 "lazy_development++" ? 2008-06-05T14:47:50 he wants us to mandate that we'll use an OSS project unless we can make a strong enough argument that it won't work for a given project 2008-06-05T14:48:17 he's a smart man, that townxelliott 2008-06-05T14:48:32 the brains came with his phd, i think 2008-06-05T14:48:54 oops, elliot 2008-06-05T14:48:57 1 t 2008-06-05T14:49:04 heh 2008-06-05T14:54:27 http://townx.org/about_me 2008-06-05T14:54:42 "In case anyone is wondering which Elliot Smith I am, I'm not the singer who committed suicide (obviously)" 2008-06-05T14:58:46 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-06-05T15:08:44 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-05T15:47:07 yay, reporter didn't fall over during the demo :) 2008-06-05T15:47:17 * Slazer cheers 2008-06-05T15:54:44 kbeswick: better or worse than the couchdb presentation? 2008-06-05T15:55:11 dbs: both presentations were good. 2008-06-05T15:55:30 you don't have to say that, you know; I have no control over your pay anymore 2008-06-05T15:55:30 at least in this one, mostly everything worked 2008-06-05T15:55:35 hah! 2008-06-05T15:56:42 dbs: you're right. better start sucking up to eeevil 2008-06-05T15:56:44 eeevil++ 2008-06-05T15:57:06 that's more like it! 2008-06-05T15:58:41 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-06-05T15:59:35 told you he learns fast 2008-06-05T16:01:21 jhksdksdklsdfkl 2008-06-05T16:04:28 date format is good, but it's not quoted 2008-06-05T16:04:29 arg 2008-06-05T16:06:12 horrabull 2008-06-05T16:15:04 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-05T16:27:52 *** pinesol` has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-05T16:37:24 *** pinesol has quit IRC 2008-06-05T16:52:35 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-06-05T16:55:43 eeevil: http://jangle.org/drupal/connector/api 2008-06-05T16:58:45 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-06-05T16:59:03 rsinger: don't get to close next time I see you... you may get kissed 2008-06-05T16:59:24 miker_sbane 2008-06-05T16:59:40 eeevil: you must not have read it yet ;) 2008-06-05T17:00:02 it's more of a straw man than anything 2008-06-05T17:00:13 so was unapi ;) 2008-06-05T17:06:57 i think this will actually help unapi 2008-06-05T17:07:16 since unapi could use the 'format registry' that jangle will have to have 2008-06-05T17:07:29 to disambiguate what you're actually requesting 2008-06-05T17:15:00 indeed 2008-06-05T17:15:21 I have to take more time, but glancing at the Actor bit, I like it 2008-06-05T17:15:40 sane, slim, not xml ... all things I like in a protocol 2008-06-05T17:15:54 haha 2008-06-05T17:16:25 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-06-05T17:30:58 eeevil: resource has been added now, too 2008-06-05T17:31:07 although there's xml involved 2008-06-05T18:50:37 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-05T19:15:59 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-05T20:40:25 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-06-05T21:08:50 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-05T21:55:12 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-05T22:14:03 Forgot to mention: the most enthusiastic reaction to Evergreen at my demo today came when I showed font preferences 2008-06-05T22:14:19 haha 2008-06-05T22:14:20 gah 2008-06-05T22:15:27 yeah :) but we have a lot of people who have a hard time dealing with the inflexibly small fonts in the unicorn client 2008-06-05T22:21:08 strong interest in status, tracking, and notification of acquisitions from request /suggestion through to being on-shelf was also indicated 2008-06-05T22:22:15 did you show the acq interfaces? 2008-06-05T22:22:19 such as they are 2008-06-05T22:22:24 yup 2008-06-05T22:24:51 couldn't really put all of the pieces together, but gave them an idea of how it would work 2008-06-05T22:43:29 * dbs reads news about Shae 2008-06-05T22:44:05 cool! hope your clients don't drive Shae nuts 2008-06-05T23:12:10 huzzah... excel format works now 2008-06-05T23:14:41 :) 2008-06-05T23:14:51 are you on trunk or 1.2.2? 2008-06-05T23:14:55 I assume so 2008-06-05T23:15:30 the Pivot option is very nice ... but under-documented (HAHAHAHA ... ahhhhhhhhhhh) ;) 2008-06-05T23:17:35 trunk 2008-06-05T23:17:43 miker_: you slay me 2008-06-05T23:18:26 the only way I could get access to the reports is to add an alias directive to apache conf 2008-06-05T23:18:48 Alias /reporter /openils/var/web/reporter/output 2008-06-05T23:18:49 ... the hail 2008-06-05T23:18:59 oh 2008-06-05T23:19:04 still gets proxy-protected 2008-06-05T23:19:20 well, you decided against moving the contents and changing the config, then? 2008-06-05T23:19:29 this is on my lappie 2008-06-05T23:19:45 IO concerns? 2008-06-05T23:19:55 no, not at all 2008-06-05T23:20:06 oh... 2008-06-05T23:20:25 moving the contents to... just /openils/var/web/reporter 2008-06-05T23:20:26 ? 2008-06-05T23:20:30 yeah 2008-06-05T23:20:45 and removing the /output part from the config 2008-06-05T23:20:49 right 2008-06-05T23:21:24 I seem to remember a discussion from ages ago that having reporter under /web/ was a bad idea in case of misconfiguration 2008-06-05T23:21:45 but I think I'll take that chance over the grief I've been going through :) 2008-06-05T23:21:51 ha 2008-06-05T23:22:12 well, the example opensrf.xml is the only real problem (to start with) 2008-06-05T23:22:15 shall I update install.sh and opensrf.xml.example accordingly? 2008-06-05T23:22:39 why install.sh? 2008-06-05T23:22:39 install.sh defaulted to /openils/var/reporter just to screw things up further 2008-06-05T23:22:52 oh 2008-06-05T23:22:56 :) 2008-06-05T23:23:18 err, config.sh - same diff 2008-06-05T23:27:56 my IRC client is in the bottom left of my screens, and I noticed just now that my eyes drift there when I'm getting really tired... muscle power imbalance 2008-06-05T23:33:00 come on - you're telling me you're tired? 2008-06-05T23:33:19 noooooooo 2008-06-05T23:33:26 g vfjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjaaaaaaaaaa 2008-06-05T23:33:28 oh 2008-06-05T23:33:39 sorry ... attempting to type with forehead 2008-06-05T23:35:03 how's the port to postquel going? 2008-06-05T23:35:45 ha! 2008-06-05T23:35:58 have to do statcats 2008-06-05T23:36:04 but everything else should work 2008-06-05T23:51:27 all right - nighty night 2008-06-05T23:52:06 night 2008-06-05T23:52:13 *** dbs has quit IRC