2008-06-13T02:00:54 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-06-13T02:01:08 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-06-13T02:32:09 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T07:42:50 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T07:42:54 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T07:48:24 *** sarabee_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T07:59:26 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-06-13T08:00:16 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-06-13T08:24:45 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T08:29:20 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T08:30:41 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-06-13T08:30:54 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T08:31:13 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T09:10:03 *** pmurray has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T09:48:42 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T10:30:20 berick: you there? 2008-06-13T10:30:41 yo 2008-06-13T10:31:47 in Open-ILS/xul/staff_client/Makefile , in the first ifeq statement, there is this: 2008-06-13T10:32:03 $(origin $(OPENSRF_LIBS)) 2008-06-13T10:33:01 yeah 2008-06-13T10:33:05 and its saying it's not a valid POSIX variable name when im trying to use that same ifeq statement in my Makefile.am 2008-06-13T10:33:16 my question is, what is origin? 2008-06-13T10:33:38 well, what is the whole variable supposed to mean/do i guess.. 2008-06-13T10:33:46 well, i can tell you what it's doing, but i don't know what 'origin' means exactly 2008-06-13T10:33:54 not sure who added that 2008-06-13T10:34:14 it's just checking to see if the OPENSRF_LIBS variable is set, i believe 2008-06-13T10:34:18 ohhh 2008-06-13T10:34:20 ok 2008-06-13T10:34:20 and providing a default if no 2008-06-13T10:34:44 i was confused by origin, and was trying to figure out if it would change anything if i took it out 2008-06-13T10:35:25 http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/make/Origin-Function.html 2008-06-13T10:36:35 yeah, i think it's safe to take it out 2008-06-13T10:36:38 and do whatever works 2008-06-13T10:36:39 k, i think i figured it out, thanks 2008-06-13T10:37:04 ps. im at the testing stage of autotools in openILS 2008-06-13T10:37:34 im assuming there will be enough to fix though 2008-06-13T10:37:39 kbeswick: awesome! hey, where is the latest opensrf stuff? is the last patch to ils-dev the latest? 2008-06-13T10:38:21 i updated some things based on your recommendations, but havent made a patch yet 2008-06-13T10:38:30 yeah, OpenILS has a lot more pieces flying around, and will, of course, benefit the most 2008-06-13T10:38:59 kbeswick: well, if you'd like me to test the opensrf stuff, lemme know 2008-06-13T10:39:57 i'll probably test it myself today and make any more changes i need to, then ill send you the patch 2008-06-13T10:41:54 cool 2008-06-13T10:42:07 do you know where dbs has been? 2008-06-13T10:42:17 he didnt tell us he wouldnt be around 2008-06-13T10:42:27 so Slazer and I have no idea where he is 2008-06-13T10:42:32 haha 2008-06-13T10:42:40 he's in Armenia ;) 2008-06-13T10:43:03 berick: he should be back now ... but may be taking the day off to rest 2008-06-13T10:43:46 well that clears our theory of him dropping out of evergreen, quitting his job, skipping town and supporting a rival ILS 2008-06-13T10:44:15 kbeswick: heh 2008-06-13T11:45:18 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-06-13T14:30:47 w00t, just ran my openSRF/ILS install and it works! 2008-06-13T14:44:58 hellz yeah 2008-06-13T14:46:36 at least for installing with the options listed in the HOW-TO 2008-06-13T14:46:53 still gotta test/fix the rest 2008-06-13T15:02:47 Hey, folks. Is there a way to search in EV for a bib by its EV bib id? (That is, biblio.record_entry.id) 2008-06-13T15:07:58 agJohn: not in the opac, but you can construct a URL 2008-06-13T15:08:08 huzzah 2008-06-13T15:08:39 agJohn: I'll get you a couple examples 2008-06-13T15:09:07 miker_: I was meaning in the Staff Client... 2008-06-13T15:09:22 hrm.. jason? 2008-06-13T15:09:30 well, there's TCN search 2008-06-13T15:09:47 easy enough to add something, to staff client, and probably OPAC, but nothing there currently 2008-06-13T15:10:18 Jason already replied in the other chat. miker_ can we take this up in the private area? 2008-06-13T15:25:18 miker_: I've got a hypothetical data tweaking question: if I were to add a tag/subfield directly to the metabib.full_rec table, would that upset anything or would you be able to use that as a search point via the SC's Tag Search function (recognizing that it'd presumably go away if the record was ever edited)? If one were to add it to the metabib.full_rec and the XML of the record itself,... 2008-06-13T15:25:20 ...would that be adequate (assuming no one cared about doing a regular keyword search of it)? 2008-06-13T15:35:30 agJohn: putting it in the marcxml would allow indexed search via the "MARC Expert Search" ... what's the use case you're thinking of? 2008-06-13T15:36:50 Well, we didn't get the Hzn bib# in a tag for Kent, ultimately. they want to do searches. (I'd assumed the MARC Expert Search would use the metabib.full_rec table so hence the question in that direction.) 2008-06-13T15:37:30 I should say, their cataloger wants to do searches by Hzn bib# during a period of transition. 2008-06-13T15:38:29 righto 2008-06-13T15:39:11 yeah, if you were to stick a row per record in there, the expert search would get it 2008-06-13T15:39:17 Since it'd be a simple matter to run a SQL insert that would add the data to the metabib.full_rec table, I thought I'd go ahead and ask. 2008-06-13T15:39:44 no problem at all 2008-06-13T15:39:45 I've got it on my list to do some tools for dealing with the MARC XML, but I'm not there yet... 2008-06-13T15:40:31 Jason and Bill have come up with a good solution, I think, but being a curious fellow, I had to ask about the idea I'd had.... 2008-06-13T15:41:43 where are you folks ... the "normal channel is quiet for me 2008-06-13T15:42:31 however, go Bill and Jason :) 2008-06-13T15:45:57 agJohn: if you used the --idfield flag to marc2bre, then the bib id should be the same, actually ... I think ... 2008-06-13T15:49:49 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-06-13T15:54:27 miker_:We're in the private area... 2008-06-13T15:55:08 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-06-13T15:55:25 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T15:55:44 miker_: wrt the --idfield flag, we did that, but then there isn't a good way to search in the Staff Client by bib id at this point. 2008-06-13T15:56:12 duh, right 2008-06-13T15:56:13 sorry 2008-06-13T15:56:47 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-06-13T15:57:15 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-06-13T15:57:42 * dbs is back on EST... ahh 2008-06-13T15:57:58 * berick throws roses at dbs 2008-06-13T15:58:08 dbs: how'd it go? 2008-06-13T15:58:54 berick: pretty well - we ran into some problems after upgrading from 1.2.1.4 to 1.2.2.1, which was unfortunate 2008-06-13T15:59:30 that was also following an encounter with the OOM killer and a cold boot, so it may have just been coincidence 2008-06-13T16:00:01 but the participants seemed to be pleased with how much ground we were able to cover 2008-06-13T16:00:10 great 2008-06-13T16:00:23 oom-- 2008-06-13T16:01:23 yeah - we wouldn't have run into oom if there had been some swap on the machine :) 2008-06-13T16:01:33 bah! 2008-06-13T16:01:44 this is a machine they setup for demo purposes? 2008-06-13T16:01:49 it was a very good learning experience 2008-06-13T16:01:53 yep 2008-06-13T16:02:46 seriously, though, most of the participants didn't have much experience with Linux, so it was a chance to cover a lot of ground 2008-06-13T16:05:16 I had some good chats with hdl from biblibre as well, comparing notes on unimarc vs. marc21 and i18n / encoding issues 2008-06-13T16:05:24 well, dbs, your wards thought you ran off to south america to raise goats 2008-06-13T16:05:56 heh - I grew up on a farm, I've done my time, I'm not going back 2008-06-13T16:07:40 sorry for the rather brief emails I threw out over the past couple of days - there was zero connectivity outside of the workshop building 2008-06-13T16:21:31 we're making progress with http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-admin:customizations:i18n:staff_client_progress - yay 2008-06-13T16:25:05 w00t 2008-06-13T16:25:15 we're kicking ass at EC2008 :D 2008-06-13T16:25:23 dbs: btw 2008-06-13T16:25:35 dbs: http://dev.pocoo.org/~mitsuhiko/pctp02.png 2008-06-13T16:25:46 hah - nederlands won again? 2008-06-13T16:25:55 3-1 against FR :D 2008-06-13T16:26:06 and Romania 1 - 1 Italy 2008-06-13T16:26:26 ooh! is that an openly available translation interface? 2008-06-13T16:26:51 dbs: Being worked on yes 2008-06-13T16:27:04 nice - looks much cleaner than kartouche or pootle 2008-06-13T16:27:30 dbs: and webbased at least. Python of course. 2008-06-13T16:29:32 of course :) 2008-06-13T16:29:41 * asmodai grins 2008-06-13T16:34:13 "Philosophy" is the love of wisdom, so when M. Breeding says people move to open source systems mostly for philosophical reasons, I suppose that means it's because they're wise? 2008-06-13T16:34:16 well, I think the match is done or they just scored again 2008-06-13T16:34:46 wow, seems 4-1 in overtime 2008-06-13T16:35:06 They've used their powers of critical analysis and logic to arrive at the choice of an open source system? 2008-06-13T16:35:08 wow 2008-06-13T16:35:31 okay, off to get sushi -- biab 2008-06-13T16:39:20 oh, miker_++ # for an example reporting extension that just happens to match the most frequently requested migration feature 2008-06-13T16:42:51 dbs: :) 2008-06-13T17:07:57 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-06-13T20:26:24 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen