2008-07-22T01:24:08 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T02:34:32 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-07-22T02:39:40 *** awhik has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T05:43:10 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T06:56:07 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T08:17:52 *** kgs_aloft has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T08:18:50 *** kgs_aloft is now known as kgs_madison 2008-07-22T08:19:01 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T08:19:47 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T08:32:03 miker_ eeevil: you there? 2008-07-22T08:35:01 kbeswick: sir! 2008-07-22T08:35:46 miker_: i got july 14 pay in the mail yesterday, still havent gotten beginning of the month one 2008-07-22T09:13:35 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T10:03:17 *** mlasater has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T10:23:31 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-07-22T11:12:38 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T11:15:07 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T11:19:18 *** EGUEST668 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T11:20:46 HI all - real quick. Working in a gym looking to create from scratch a catalog of our material don't have MARC records can we manually load records? 2008-07-22T11:21:58 *** rsinger__ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T11:23:21 *** rsinger___ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T11:23:29 EGUEST668: sure! You can add Bib records by hand... or can import from a Z39.50 datasource (such as Library of Congress), saving tons of time 2008-07-22T11:24:25 thanks so if I go to LOC website I can imprt i.e. Men's health for the last 10 yrs? 2008-07-22T11:29:32 brb 2008-07-22T11:29:41 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-07-22T11:31:42 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-07-22T11:33:20 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T11:37:04 *** rsinger_ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T11:38:39 *** rsinger__ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T11:39:21 *** kgs_madison has quit IRC 2008-07-22T11:41:22 EGUEST668: well, you may be able to get the bibliographic record(s) (some popular-but-not-scholarly stuff is not in LoC), but you'd need to add item entries for your local holdings. 2008-07-22T11:48:09 ok i plan to google but is there a go to source for importing from a Z39.50 datasource 2008-07-22T11:55:58 Z39.50 import is built into the staff client. Library of Congress and OCLC are configured by default, though OCLC (a library vendor) requires a username and password that they provide. 2008-07-22T11:57:12 *** rsinger___ is now known as rsinger 2008-07-22T11:59:40 thanks miker so in laymens terms if we download Evergreen the ability to import bib records already exists and we go to the LOC website to do it? I'm sure our tech guy has a clue unlike me! 2008-07-22T12:00:29 EGUEST668: LOC is already configured as a Z39.50 source. you just open up that enterface and enter some search terms 2008-07-22T12:00:52 you don't even have to go to the LoC website. there's a search and import interface built into the evergreen staff client that will allow you to find an import records from any configured Z source 2008-07-22T12:01:00 where "that interface" == the z39.50 import menu option under the catalong menu 2008-07-22T12:01:18 and what berick said :) 2008-07-22T12:01:50 great thanks so much 2008-07-22T12:05:11 *** EGUEST668 has quit IRC 2008-07-22T12:07:22 *** mlasater has quit IRC 2008-07-22T12:14:08 *** mlasater has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T12:26:41 miker_: you ok with the xslt suggestion? 2008-07-22T12:50:55 rsinger: I skimmed the email ... is the context extra-jangular results? "here connector, they want something I can't give them, and they want it in this stylesheet" ... or is it for the connector to transform from it's "core" format for the relevant resource? 2008-07-22T12:51:34 miker_: that's the whim of the implementor 2008-07-22T12:51:37 if it's the latter, I'm all for it ... jangle knows X output format, but can take a stylesheet to transform to Y 2008-07-22T12:51:45 right 2008-07-22T12:51:52 that's more what i was leaning towards 2008-07-22T12:52:06 right ... if that's the point, then yes. All for it 2008-07-22T12:52:34 jangle connector only "ead". There is a stylesheet to transform to marc. if that's what you want, there you go 2008-07-22T12:52:40 er 2008-07-22T12:52:44 only "knows" ead 2008-07-22T13:13:55 <_dkyle1> hey miker, last year when I was testing cluster stuffs, you told me that PINES wound up moving memcache processes to separate servers 2008-07-22T13:14:23 <_dkyle1> how did you determine how many memcache servers were needed? 2008-07-22T13:32:19 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-07-22T13:36:06 _dkyle1: well, it wasn't for load concerns. we had some issues at the time with the boxes going a bit crazy and taking memcache down, which is a Bad Thing for staff sessions, etc 2008-07-22T13:37:18 _dkyle1: we looked at nominal memory usage and scaled that to "best bang for the buck" in servers ... which worked out to 2 boxes with 4G of RAM, IIRC. we have the option of offloading some CPU-heavy work to those as well 2008-07-22T13:43:02 *** kgs_madison has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T13:48:15 <_dkyle1> was the instability with memcache or something else? 2008-07-22T13:53:20 _dkyle1: hardware 2008-07-22T14:29:16 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-07-22T15:09:54 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-07-22T15:45:34 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-07-22T15:55:14 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T16:10:55 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-07-22T16:14:14 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-07-22T16:41:15 Trying to run OpenSRF make all...Lots of errors (starts with) 2008-07-22T16:41:17 gateway 2008-07-22T16:41:18 In file included from /usr/include/apache2/ap_config.h:25, 2008-07-22T16:41:20 from /usr/include/apache2/httpd.h:43, 2008-07-22T16:41:22 from apachetools.h:1, 2008-07-22T16:41:24 from apachetools.c:1: 2008-07-22T16:41:25 /usr/include/apr-1.0/apr.h:270: error: expected `=', `,', `;', `asm' or `__attri 2008-07-22T16:41:26 bute__' before `apr_off_t' 2008-07-22T16:41:28 In file included from /usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_file_io.h:29, 2008-07-22T16:41:29 from /usr/include/apr-1.0/apr_network_io.h:26, 2008-07-22T16:41:31 from /usr/include/apache2/httpd.h:53, 2008-07-22T16:41:33 from apachetools.h:1, 2008-07-22T16:41:34 from apachetools.c:1: 2008-07-22T16:41:36 What package(s) would I have the wrong version of. 2008-07-22T16:43:26 agJohn: ahh... you'll need to add the large file support flag, IIRC. let me dig for that in the mail archives 2008-07-22T16:45:47 it's in the wiki install docs, at least for etch 2008-07-22T16:46:17 IIRC: 2008-07-22T16:46:23 make -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE 2008-07-22T16:46:45 though I may not recall correctly... 2008-07-22T16:47:25 ahh, yes 2008-07-22T16:47:33 http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=installing_evergreen_1.2_on_debian_etch_x86_32-bit 2008-07-22T16:47:44 step 3.I 2008-07-22T16:48:15 I did recall incorrectly 2008-07-22T16:48:34 Thanks, miker_. I'm trying to fix a machine that's already had everything running on it and so I'm trying to step through, but I missed that one... 2008-07-22T16:49:06 righto 2008-07-22T16:50:40 In short, I didn't recall correctly! 2008-07-22T16:59:47 *** mjg_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T17:06:43 OK. Made, so to speak, it as far a step 5.II. and I seem to be missing a package; but I thought I'd checked for all the packages... Anyone tell me what's missing? 2008-07-22T17:06:45 2008-07-22T17:06:46 /home/opensrf/Evergreen-ILS-1.2.2.2# make 2008-07-22T17:06:48 Building... 2008-07-22T17:06:49 -------------- [ openils_all ] ------------------------------------------- 2008-07-22T17:06:51 c_apps 2008-07-22T17:06:52 oils_auth.so 2008-07-22T17:06:54 oils_cstore.so 2008-07-22T17:06:55 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldbdpgsql 2008-07-22T17:06:57 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 2008-07-22T17:06:58 make[2]: *** [oils_cstore.so] Error 1 2008-07-22T17:07:00 make[1]: *** [c_apps] Error 2 2008-07-22T17:08:18 libdbi-drivers, at least 2008-07-22T17:10:35 did you run the prereq makefile? 2008-07-22T17:11:00 No, I was just trying to check to verify all the bits were already there (dumb). 2008-07-22T17:11:20 Time to start over! 2008-07-22T17:11:45 well, if you just use that prereq makefile from step 1 you should be able to proceed 2008-07-22T17:12:47 If I'm getting this from apt-get or aptitude as root, is the OS install unhappy with life? (Synaptic seems to run from the desktop...): 2008-07-22T17:12:49 2008-07-22T17:12:50 E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily un 2008-07-22T17:12:52 available) 2008-07-22T17:12:53 E: Unable to lock the list directory 2008-07-22T17:13:18 I rebooted to try to fix it and that didn't seem to do any good.... 2008-07-22T17:14:06 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_away 2008-07-22T17:14:21 arg ... there's a dpkg command to clean that up, but I don't remember it OTTOMH 2008-07-22T17:14:39 OK. I'll check it out. Thanks. 2008-07-22T17:19:56 *** _dkyle1 has quit IRC 2008-07-22T17:38:24 miker_: I'm being a pest, sorry. apt-get update problem is solved, but I downloaded the prerequisite Makefile.install: 2008-07-22T17:38:26 http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/browser/trunk/Open-ILS/src/extras/Makefile.install 2008-07-22T17:38:27 And it has this to say for itself: 2008-07-22T17:38:29 2008-07-22T17:38:30 debian:~# make -f Makefile.install debian 2008-07-22T17:38:31 Makefile.install:5: *** missing separator. Stop. 2008-07-22T17:38:33 2008-07-22T17:38:35 It's obvious that this particular machine has been bewitched, but other than that, any suggestions? 2008-07-22T17:39:28 agJohn: http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/browser/trunk/Open-ILS/src/extras/Makefile.install is the HTML page 2008-07-22T17:39:36 Duh! 2008-07-22T17:39:49 scroll to the bottom of that page for text link 2008-07-22T17:42:26 It appears to install postgres-8.1, is that expected/correct? 2008-07-22T17:42:39 I already have/had 8.2 installed... 2008-07-22T17:43:46 And the DB I need to run against is 8.2.... 2008-07-22T17:43:52 (on another box) 2008-07-22T17:44:18 well, if the db is on another box, then that's fine 2008-07-22T17:44:31 the 8.1 client libraries will talk to 8.2 2008-07-22T17:44:46 but you could adjust the makefile to pull in 8.2 2008-07-22T17:44:53 OK. Is there any advantage to using the 8.2 libraries? 2008-07-22T17:45:04 (I've had enough ID-ten-T errors for one week....) 2008-07-22T17:45:52 heh ... 8.1 will work fine for client-side, but just removing the make target for postgres will allow you to leave 8.2 there 2008-07-22T17:46:17 and with that, I'm running away! (dinner bell is ringing) 2008-07-22T17:47:38 agJohn: try running "make install_debs install debian_sys_config" instead 2008-07-22T17:47:44 that will avoid the postgres insatll 2008-07-22T17:48:30 OK. I've already started so I'll just let it finish, I think... 2008-07-22T17:51:34 *** kgs_madison has quit IRC 2008-07-22T18:03:04 berick, miker_: Thanks, gents. I seem to be back in business! 2008-07-22T18:07:21 Okay, I've sent some edifact samples to henk-jan. Hoping I can have something interesting to show soon. 2008-07-22T18:07:58 mjg_++ 2008-07-22T18:09:19 Slowly but surely... 2008-07-22T18:11:31 *** mjg_ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T18:37:26 *** drdata_ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T18:45:38 *** kgs_madison has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:17:05 *** bradl has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:17:05 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:17:05 *** bradl_ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:17:05 *** phasefx_ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:17:05 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:17:05 *** sboyette has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:17:05 *** jeff has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:17:22 *** bradl has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:17:22 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:17:22 *** eeevil has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:17:22 *** sboyette has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:17:22 *** bradl_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:17:22 *** phasefx_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:17:22 *** jeff has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:24:52 berick, miker_: Well, I thought everything was working until I tried to run direct_ingest.pl; not happy. 2008-07-22T19:24:54 settings-tester.pl reports: 2008-07-22T19:24:55 2008-07-22T19:24:57 Checking database drivers to ensure matches 2008-07-22T19:24:58 * OK: Pg language is undefined for reporter base configuration 2008-07-22T19:25:00 * OK: Pg language is perl in /opensrf/default/apps/open-ils.storage/language 2008-07-22T19:25:01 * OK: pgsql language is C in /opensrf/default/apps/open-ils.cstore/language 2008-07-22T19:25:03 * OK: pgsql language is C in /opensrf/default/apps/open-ils.reporter-store/language 2008-07-22T19:25:04 Checking libdbi and libdbi-drivers 2008-07-22T19:25:06 Libdbi postgres driver not found 2008-07-22T19:25:07 Not sure what's going on. What phase of the installation should add those drivers? 2008-07-22T19:28:38 2008-07-22T19:28:39 libdbi-perl is installed; is there another piece? 2008-07-22T19:29:13 Ah, okay, found the other section... 2008-07-22T19:30:18 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T19:34:47 *** mjg_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:44:59 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:45:07 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:52:22 *** eeevil has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:54:03 *** kgs_madison has quit IRC 2008-07-22T19:57:02 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T19:57:27 that's a new one: "XML descendants internal method called on incompatible object" 2008-07-22T19:58:02 which is the magic top secret javascript error message for "syntax error" 2008-07-22T20:01:31 sweet. The only reason my editor wasn't being displayed in the grid was because I was running BERICK'S CODE 2008-07-22T20:01:46 heh 2008-07-22T20:01:54 note: editor doesn't actually work quite right ;-) 2008-07-22T20:04:56 miker_: So, you're back, eh? Well, I'm still struggling with libdbi .... 2008-07-22T20:04:57 2008-07-22T20:04:59 settings_tester.pl reports: 2008-07-22T20:05:00 2008-07-22T20:05:02 Checking libdbi and libdbi-drivers 2008-07-22T20:05:03 /usr/local/lib/dbd/libdbdpgsql.so 2008-07-22T20:05:05 was not linked against libdbi - you probably need to compile libdbi-drivers from source with the --enable-libdbi configure switch. 2008-07-22T20:05:06 2008-07-22T20:05:08 Which is frustrating because I have the libdbi-0.8.3 & libdbi-drivers-0.8.3 source directories and I copied and pasted the info right from the prerequisites script (including the switch in question). I thought perhaps the file itself wasn't getting overwritten, but it has the right date/time stamp? Any suggestions gratefully accepted.... 2008-07-22T20:05:31 That is "info" means "configure and make commands" 2008-07-22T20:06:16 for libdbi-drivers, make clean and then configure without the --enable-libdbi switch ... there is a bug in that version (reported to them, but not yet fixed in a released version) 2008-07-22T20:06:26 then make install those again 2008-07-22T20:06:49 OK. Giving that a shot.... 2008-07-22T20:07:11 That's just the libdbi-drivers source, not libdbi? 2008-07-22T20:07:22 correct 2008-07-22T20:10:10 *** bradl_ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T20:10:40 *** phasefx_ has quit IRC 2008-07-22T20:10:47 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T20:16:20 miker_: OK. settings_tester.pl seems to be happy with libdbi & so on.... 2008-07-22T20:16:21 Am I remembering that the way to avoid the race condition during OpenSRF startup is to start_router, then start_perl, then start_c? 2008-07-22T20:16:22 I'm getting this in the osrfsys.log: 2008-07-22T20:16:24 2008-07-22T20:16:26 opensrf 2008-07-22 18:12:39 [WARN:29498:osrf_application.c:22:] Failed to dlopen 2008-07-22T20:16:27 library file oils_cstore.so: libdbdpgsql.so: cannot open shared object file: No 2008-07-22T20:16:29 such file or directory 2008-07-22T20:16:30 2008-07-22T20:16:32 libdbdpgsql.so is definitely there, I'm guessing maybe I need to remake the opensrf goo? 2008-07-22T20:16:39 dbs++ # for the bzr repos 2008-07-22T20:16:54 agJohn: you'll want to rebuild the evergreen code 2008-07-22T20:17:07 oils_cstore is in the eg tarball 2008-07-22T20:17:07 OK. makes sense... 2008-07-22T20:18:16 djfiander: it should make you happy to konw that I'm also fighting with the dojo grid... 2008-07-22T20:19:17 you have my sympathies 2008-07-22T20:19:37 grid in a tabcontainer pane is not showing up :( 2008-07-22T20:19:53 until you go to the tab, then to another, then back again 2008-07-22T20:20:01 nice 2008-07-22T20:20:06 see. all very brittle 2008-07-22T20:21:00 and there we go: TabContainer containing ContentPanes containing Grids doesn't render second Grid ... in the dojo forum 2008-07-22T20:21:03 * miker_ reads 2008-07-22T20:23:00 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-07-22T20:23:10 I assume that the deprecated calls to 'dbi_result_get_long' reported during the compilation of oils_cstore.c are of no consequence, right? 2008-07-22T20:23:19 correct 2008-07-22T20:24:09 they're removed in a later version, but that removal ends up causing problems ... we need a BIGINT type, re a boundary condition reported to the list 2008-07-22T20:24:23 so ... gotta figure that out before 1.4 ;) 2008-07-22T20:25:27 I'd offer to help but my incompetence (at least today) is apparently pretty boundless! 2008-07-22T20:25:56 har :) 2008-07-22T20:27:57 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-07-22T20:28:14 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-22T20:28:25 OK. I did a make clean in the Evergreen dir; then make config; then make (as opensrf); then make install (back to root); I'm still getting the warnings in osrfsys.log: 2008-07-22T20:28:26 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2008-07-22T20:28:27 2008-07-22T20:28:28 opensrf 2008-07-22 18:24:59 [WARN:30275:osrf_application.c:22:] Failed to dlopen 2008-07-22T20:28:30 library file oils_rstore.so: libdbdpgsql.so: cannot open shared object file: No 2008-07-22T20:28:31 such file or directory 2008-07-22T20:28:33 2008-07-22T20:28:34 BTW, direct_ingest is hard to stop when it's putting out errors.... 2008-07-22T20:29:23 One thing I did was Ctrl-C out of the make install so it wouldn't blow away my DB data--could that be part of it? 2008-07-22T20:29:29 hrm... did you make clean before recompiling? rstore is actually just a compliation variant of cstore 2008-07-22T20:30:01 Yup; first thing... I assumed I should do that as root... 2008-07-22T20:30:39 indeed, to be sure you can remove everything you need to 2008-07-22T20:31:07 seems that rstore didn't get rebuilt for some reason 2008-07-22T20:31:18 that's far from critical right now, though 2008-07-22T20:32:40 So is that warning and the subsequent error that "We lost a top-level service process" not important? (Sorry, not sure I'm following what you mean.) 2008-07-22T20:32:41 fuck me 2008-07-22T20:33:02 1 hr after figuring out that the problem is I'm running the wrong code, provider editing is finished. 2008-07-22T20:33:21 djfiander: 1hr + 3 days? 2008-07-22T20:33:43 the code that I was trying to debug for 3 days? that always worked. 2008-07-22T20:33:52 except I wasn't running the code I was reading :P 2008-07-22T20:34:08 oh dear me ... 2008-07-22T20:34:22 you're getting a bill for that three days, of course ;-) 2008-07-22T20:34:23 fwiw, I did the same thing earlier ... "I know I've made these changes before ..." 2008-07-22T20:34:28 ha 2008-07-22T20:36:03 I haven't made that mistake in, gee, 3 weeks.... 2008-07-22T20:37:00 don't leave rowSpan : 2 hanging around in a layout with one row... 2008-07-22T20:37:09 agJohn: oh, this is trickier. berick and I are sharing the server, and we both thought that the urls were set up so "my url" ran my code and his url his. 2008-07-22T20:37:27 agJohn: but nope. we were both runing berick's code. 2008-07-22T20:37:44 I hate when that happens.... 2008-07-22T20:41:15 *** eeevil has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T20:42:03 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T20:46:07 *** pinesol` has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T20:46:07 *** pinesol has quit IRC 2008-07-22T21:04:33 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-07-22T21:21:51 *** mjg_ has left #openils-evergreen 2008-07-22T21:25:24 man ... dev is acting funky 2008-07-22T21:30:52 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-07-22T21:47:40 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-07-22T23:58:30 *** phase_bb has quit IRC