2008-07-30T00:09:52 gah! ... I think I got it. 2008-07-30T00:11:15 got it... sec 2008-07-30T00:11:38 excellent 2008-07-30T00:12:46 http://rafb.net/p/M0S6hY92.html 2008-07-30T00:13:09 brb 2008-07-30T00:16:21 miker_++ 2008-07-30T00:19:57 * berick done 2008-07-30T00:25:19 wow... nice 2008-07-30T00:26:28 is there somewhere I can see that in action? 2008-07-30T00:29:38 you know ... there are a lot of scrollies going on 2008-07-30T00:29:54 is most of the markup build in pylons? 2008-07-30T00:30:26 heh ... well, I guess by "done" you meant for the day ;) 2008-07-30T00:57:42 *** superso has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T00:58:10 good evening to all 2008-07-30T00:59:36 I am trying to get evergreen running on a ubuntu box and have followed the directions. But now I am at an impass. Is there anyone who may be able to help me? 2008-07-30T00:59:54 I am at the point of starting the router and I get this error 2008-07-30T01:00:21 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-07-30T01:00:54 I have been diggin g in the log's but I am so new to evergreen I am just not making progress 2008-07-30T01:28:40 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T01:46:25 key mark 2008-07-30T01:46:29 *hey 2008-07-30T02:04:31 *** superso has quit IRC 2008-07-30T04:08:47 *** Mindless42 has left #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T06:02:01 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-07-30T06:03:20 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T07:43:04 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-07-30T08:12:36 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T08:14:35 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T08:20:18 Alright, time to try to get Evergreen installed properly today. *crosses fingers* 2008-07-30T08:23:01 miker_: yep, the markup is all by pylons templates, but those god forsaken scrollies are dojo. 2008-07-30T08:23:14 probably can be fixed with some better use of css height 2008-07-30T08:23:37 i tried just removing some, but it made part of the page inaccessible 2008-07-30T08:24:14 can you point me at the css? 2008-07-30T08:26:06 Open-ILS/web/oilsweb/oilsweb/public/oils/media/css 2008-07-30T08:27:00 yeah, the scrollies are dojo, but the markup is where you fix 'em ;) 2008-07-30T08:27:14 I had the same problems with my grids 2008-07-30T08:27:30 right. also in oilsweb/templates/oils/default/common/jubgrid.html, there are some size settings that can be adjusted 2008-07-30T08:28:01 a lot of it is combinations of grids and other widgets like split containers 2008-07-30T08:29:46 well, it comes down to having to use layoutcontainers to cut up the screen and put a contentpane in for each section so that grids are in their own contentpane ... and give thos grid contentpanes the right css 2008-07-30T08:30:09 that ... probably made no sense 2008-07-30T08:31:23 i think that made sense 2008-07-30T08:33:31 so, for every grid you need a contentpane ... I add the 'grid_container' class to /all/ content panes that have grids ... and that class says: .grid_container {width:100%;height:100%} ... and that's it 2008-07-30T08:33:48 the /only/ thing that goes into that contentpane is the grid 2008-07-30T08:34:24 then, surrounding that contentpane is a layoutcontainer ... well... let me find an example... 2008-07-30T08:35:41 that sounds doable. i've been avoiding layoutcontainers and splitcontainers since they are deprecated in 1.1, but we still have quite a few in the markup 2008-07-30T08:35:56 Open-ILS/web/conify/global/config/copy_status.html 2008-07-30T08:41:05 miker_: thanks for the pointer. i'll do some poking at that today 2008-07-30T08:42:36 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T08:58:58 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-07-30T09:00:53 *** gmcharlt_away is now known as gmcharlt 2008-07-30T09:22:53 *** _dkyle_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T09:30:56 *** rsinger__ has quit IRC 2008-07-30T09:31:21 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-30T09:33:00 Alright, so since dbs isn't here today could I get some help from either miker_ or berick (or anyone else for that matter if they can help, heh) about what I should try to get Evergreen working properly? 2008-07-30T09:36:26 Slazer: ask away.. glad to help as we can 2008-07-30T09:41:28 Alright, well the main problem that I can see (from the osrfsys.log file) is that there are 5 warnings for 5 separate .so files that aren't loaded (as they cannot be found). 2008-07-30T09:41:28 osrf_math.so, osrf_dbmath.so, oils_auth.so, oils_cstore.so, oils.rstore.so 2008-07-30T09:41:28 Any ideas as to why this may be happening? 2008-07-30T09:42:29 /s/oils.rstore.so/oils_rstore.so 2008-07-30T09:46:54 ok, so none of the C libs are being loaded. try: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/openils/lib then restart C services 2008-07-30T09:47:25 by try, i mean run that in your shell 2008-07-30T09:47:40 Should I do that as just my normal user or root or the opensrf user? 2008-07-30T09:48:32 as the user that is starting the services, which I presume is opensrf 2008-07-30T09:48:39 Ok. 2008-07-30T09:49:07 how are you starting services? are you becoming the opensrf user then starting or just "sudo opensrf -c '...'" 2008-07-30T09:49:25 Becoming the opensrf user 2008-07-30T09:50:21 ok, cool 2008-07-30T09:54:17 Hmmm, still get the warnings. They look like this: 2008-07-30T09:54:17 opensrf 2008-07-30 09:48:42 [WARN:7781:osrf_application.c:31:] Failed to dlopen library file oils_cstore.so: oils_cstore.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 2008-07-30T09:55:30 Slazer: did you do the 'ldconfig' dance as well? 2008-07-30T09:55:36 i seem to recall that happening yesterday 2008-07-30T09:55:59 I didn't do it yet today. I did try yesterday. 2008-07-30T09:56:26 what's in /usr/local/lib/dbd/ ? 2008-07-30T09:57:10 libdbdpgsql.a, libdbdpgsql.la, and libdbdpgsql.so 2008-07-30T09:57:31 k 2008-07-30T09:58:00 oh, sorry, this is still a opensrf C libs finding problem 2008-07-30T09:58:12 Slazer: will you do this: echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH as opensrf? 2008-07-30T09:58:26 also, is oils_cstore.so in /openils/lib? 2008-07-30T09:58:47 brb 2008-07-30T09:58:52 The echo returned a blank line. 2008-07-30T09:59:25 And yes. oils_cstore.so (and all other .so files I mentioned earlier) are in there. 2008-07-30T10:04:53 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-07-30T10:09:35 Slazer: ok, ld_library_path is not getting set if the echo is blank 2008-07-30T10:09:38 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/openils/lib 2008-07-30T10:09:48 that should set it (as long as you're running that in the same shell) 2008-07-30T10:11:41 Yeah, I redid that and then echoed it and it returned "/openils/lib" and they are loading now.... but still can't go to http://localhost/conify/en-US/global/admin.html 2008-07-30T10:12:56 No more warnings at all after doing that export and restarting the C services 2008-07-30T10:14:14 try testing with srfsh first 2008-07-30T10:14:24 ok 2008-07-30T10:14:52 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-07-30T10:15:09 Works. 2008-07-30T10:16:10 ok, good 2008-07-30T10:16:22 what happens if you just go to http://localhost ? 2008-07-30T10:16:40 Oh going there always worked. I could load up the Evergreen page all the time. 2008-07-30T10:17:04 what happens when you try to load http://localhost/conify/en-US/global/admin.html ? 404 ? 2008-07-30T10:18:21 No, I get: 2008-07-30T10:18:21 "Failed to Connect 2008-07-30T10:18:21 Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost." 2008-07-30T10:18:21 But I just saw something... it forces me from http to https... I never set up anything to use https myself... is that automatically done? 2008-07-30T10:19:04 https should be setup by default in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/eg.conf 2008-07-30T10:19:36 Slazer: see if any of the files in /etc/apache2/ have a line that reads "Listen 443" 2008-07-30T10:19:47 grep -r "listen 443" /etc/apache2/* 2008-07-30T10:20:32 should be such a line in /etc/apache2/ports.conf or /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/eg.conf 2008-07-30T10:24:00 Nothing gets returned at all. 2008-07-30T10:24:27 arg, try grep -ir "listen 443" /etc/apache2/* 2008-07-30T10:25:49 It is in eg.conf in both sites-available and sites-enabled 2008-07-30T10:25:57 ... and ports.conf 2008-07-30T10:26:35 do this: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart & tail -f /var/log/apache2/error.log 2008-07-30T10:27:22 as root (or sudo) 2008-07-30T10:28:21 *** pmurray is now known as pmurray_staff_mt 2008-07-30T10:28:30 *** pmurray_staff_mt is now known as pmurray_staffMtg 2008-07-30T10:28:46 Alright, well Apache restarted and there was stuff printed to my terminal 2008-07-30T10:29:02 anything that looks like a warning or error? 2008-07-30T10:30:25 One warning about the RSA server certificate with the CommonName (CN) not matching the server name.... but I doubt that is very important. 2008-07-30T10:30:25 And another warning: [Wed Jul 30 10:27:44 2008] [warn] mod_rewrite: Running external rewrite maps without defining a RewriteLock is DANGEROUS! 2008-07-30T10:31:06 whoa, never seen that before 2008-07-30T10:31:27 ok, what happens if you: telnet localhost 443 2008-07-30T10:32:02 Says it is Connected. 2008-07-30T10:32:15 ok 2008-07-30T10:32:21 Oh... 2008-07-30T10:32:45 Ok, now it is working. the whole confiy everything. I'm at the login screen. 2008-07-30T10:32:50 I just refreshed. 2008-07-30T10:32:54 I'm so lost. 2008-07-30T10:33:17 I had to tell Firefox to forget about the improper certificate and just accept it but... it works now. 2008-07-30T10:33:41 guess apache just needed a restart 2008-07-30T10:34:07 443 is the port for https? 2008-07-30T10:34:11 yeah 2008-07-30T10:36:22 Alright, so I can login to the conify pages.... but it seems like dojo isn't working. I'm getting no text boxes or labels in buttons. 2008-07-30T10:38:09 And am I going to have to export LD_LIBRARY_BLAH BLAH BLAH in opensrf everytime I want to get into conify ? 2008-07-30T10:39:10 Slazer: you should add export LD_LIBRARY_BLAH blah blah to /home/opensrf/.bashrc so you don't have to do it manually 2008-07-30T10:39:19 and you need that to start the ILS services 2008-07-30T10:39:33 check the javascript error log for dojo errors 2008-07-30T10:39:39 Ok. 2008-07-30T10:54:18 *** mlasater has quit IRC 2008-07-30T10:58:39 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-07-30T11:10:56 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T11:11:24 Hi all. When I'm logged in as admin and try to save a MARC record, I get this error message: 2008-07-30T11:11:29 sylvar pasted "Error creating MARC record" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/64435 2008-07-30T11:12:23 I think we can rule out a permissions problem at the Evergreen level. What else should I check? 2008-07-30T11:14:58 Aww, staff meeting. 2008-07-30T11:18:43 sylvar annotated #64435 with "gateway.log while this happens" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/64435#1 2008-07-30T11:20:17 sylvar annotated #64435 with "open-ils.cat_unix.log while this happens" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/64435#2 2008-07-30T11:20:24 sylvar: do it again, but: tail -f /openils/var/log/osrfsys.log | grep "editor\[" 2008-07-30T11:21:14 one of the last requests should be one that returns no response 2008-07-30T11:21:29 sylvar annotated #64435 with "osrfsys.log while this happens" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/64435#3 2008-07-30T11:22:22 sylvar: if you are logging the sql queries, there should be a more meaningful error in the sql log 2008-07-30T11:22:24 indeed, it says please see the error log for more information 2008-07-30T11:22:28 hmm 2008-07-30T11:22:40 i'll see if I am... 2008-07-30T11:24:19 ah, "ERROR: duplicate key violates unique constraint "record_entry_pkey". so maybe when I edit a record I have to give it a new key? 2008-07-30T11:25:26 I'm a non-cataloger trying to troubleshoot the ticket left for me by a cataloger who's been poking at Evergreen trying to see if he can edit a record. Perhaps there's something he has to do other than just save the record? 2008-07-30T11:27:04 no, the pkey is all handled for you 2008-07-30T11:27:20 sylvar: does this happen on all record edits? 2008-07-30T11:28:10 berick: I think so. I tried to create a new record without editing the template, but I think the catalogers are trying to modify existing records. 2008-07-30T11:28:27 I'm going to ask them to send me the debug output so I get a timestamp that I can check in the logs. 2008-07-30T11:28:37 sounds good 2008-07-30T11:30:46 berick++ 2008-07-30T11:31:01 I'll check in later once I've got more debug info from the users 2008-07-30T11:48:27 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T12:00:07 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-07-30T12:23:56 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T12:39:20 the duplicate key error.. I imagine that could happen if you load in bibs under the hood while not using the sequence for their id's.. and then not setting the sequence so that it starts above the max id in the system 2008-07-30T12:41:34 *** pmurray_staffMtg is now known as pmurray_away 2008-07-30T12:55:31 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2008-07-30T13:24:28 Alright, I still have no idea why dojo isn't working properly. I've run though the tests.... I run examples that come with it and things work fine. I am lost. 2008-07-30T13:25:08 Slazer: are you using Firefox? 2008-07-30T13:25:17 Yep. 2008-07-30T13:25:41 open Tools -> Error Console. refresh the page and see what it says 2008-07-30T13:26:12 may need to clear out old errors 2008-07-30T13:26:20 s/need/want/ 2008-07-30T13:28:00 I refresh and nothing comes up (in the Error Console) but when I click on the links on the side is when I get errors. 2008-07-30T13:28:42 If I click on the first link "Organization Types" I get two errors 2008-07-30T13:28:48 k 2008-07-30T13:31:10 I get a lot of warnings too (didn't see that I had it selected to only show errors). 2008-07-30T13:32:09 well, the errors are what you interested in here. the warnings are mostly dojo css issues, which can be ignored 2008-07-30T13:32:18 Ok. 2008-07-30T13:40:46 *** gmcharlt is now known as gmcharlt_lunch 2008-07-30T14:04:19 *** phasefx has quit IRC 2008-07-30T14:06:40 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-07-30T14:06:46 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-07-30T14:06:53 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-07-30T14:06:55 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T14:07:01 *** eeevil has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T14:07:08 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T14:07:22 *** phasefx has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T14:14:00 sylvar annotated #64435 with "Postgres log when editing an existing MARC record" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/64435#4 2008-07-30T14:14:18 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T14:15:06 berick: different user, editing an existing MARC record, and that pasted annotation shows the relevant entries from /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-8.2-main.log 2008-07-30T14:16:15 sylvar annotated #64435 with "The debug info the user sent me" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/64435#5 2008-07-30T14:16:22 sylvar: I think I just applied a fix to trunk for the first issue above. issue the following in psql: 2008-07-30T14:16:34 eeevil++ 2008-07-30T14:16:42 CREATE FUNCTION OR REPLACE biblio.next_autogen_tcn_value () RETURNS TEXT AS $$ 2008-07-30T14:16:42 BEGIN RETURN 'AUTOGENERATED-' || nextval('biblio.autogen_tcn_value_seq'::TEXT); END; 2008-07-30T14:16:42 $$ LANGUAGE PLPGSQL; 2008-07-30T14:17:42 ERROR: syntax error at or near "OR" 2008-07-30T14:17:43 LINE 1: CREATE FUNCTION OR REPLACE biblio.next_autogen_tcn_value () ... 2008-07-30T14:17:56 gah 2008-07-30T14:18:24 CREATE OR REPLACE FUNCTION biblio.next_autogen_tcn_value () RETURNS TEXT AS $$ 2008-07-30T14:18:24 BEGIN RETURN 'AUTOGENERATED-' || nextval('biblio.autogen_tcn_value_seq'::TEXT); END; 2008-07-30T14:18:24 $$ LANGUAGE PLPGSQL; 2008-07-30T14:18:37 create or replace, not create function or replace ... sorry 2008-07-30T14:19:00 CREATE FUNCTION 2008-07-30T14:19:18 so what, if anything, should I restart before trying again? 2008-07-30T14:19:24 nothting 2008-07-30T14:19:34 just do it and try another template-based record 2008-07-30T14:19:38 will do 2008-07-30T14:25:34 hmm, now I'm getting a network/server error 2008-07-30T14:25:54 and it's so big that I can't view the whole window on my screen, so I can't get it to go away 2008-07-30T14:26:50 that's fun ... 2008-07-30T14:27:12 sylvar annotated #64435 with "Possibly relevant from gateway.log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/64435#6 2008-07-30T14:27:45 does "namespace error : Namespace prefix marc on record is not defined" ring any bells? 2008-07-30T14:31:54 that's ... not good. what version are you testing right now? 2008-07-30T14:32:57 believe it's 1.2.2.2; is there a reliable way to double-check? 2008-07-30T14:33:46 could be 1.2.2.1 2008-07-30T14:34:36 sec... 2008-07-30T14:34:42 in srfsh: 2008-07-30T14:34:54 request open-ils.actor opensrf.open-ils.system.ils_version 2008-07-30T14:35:19 the format is 1-2-2-1 2008-07-30T14:35:50 *** gmcharlt_lunch is now known as gmcharlt 2008-07-30T14:36:37 Unable to bootstrap client for requests 2008-07-30T14:36:41 hmm! 2008-07-30T14:37:49 I tried just doing a stop_all and start_all without touching apache2 and memcached... still same error 2008-07-30T14:48:08 What problem does "Unable to bootstrap client for requests" indicate? 2008-07-30T14:48:54 sylvar: it can't connect to / log in to the jabber server or it can't talk to the settings server 2008-07-30T14:50:21 OK, I stopped/started ejabberd and got the same message. How do I restart the settings server? 2008-07-30T14:52:25 instead of doing stop_all and start_all, do stop_all, start_router, start_perl, and start_c 2008-07-30T14:53:47 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2008-07-30T15:14:50 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T15:15:35 berick: OK, I did that. What should my command-line for srfsh look like when I'm trying to "request open-ils.actor opensrf.open-ils.system.ils_version"? 2008-07-30T15:17:07 also, may I request that "srfsh --help" return something helpful in the hazy future? 2008-07-30T15:17:25 sylvar: i don't understand the question? 2008-07-30T15:17:47 If I sound catty, it's because my wife got a kitten and my cat doesn't like it. We've been cleaning up messes recently. 2008-07-30T15:18:38 berick: I'm logged in as opensrf. I typed "srfsh" and got "Unable to bootstrap client for requests" as a response. Should I be doing something else to launch srfsh? 2008-07-30T15:20:41 sylvar: in the ~/.srfsh.xml file, make sure the settings there match your system 2008-07-30T15:20:47 does the login info in ~/.srfsh.xml ... 2008-07-30T15:20:57 heh, what phasefx said 2008-07-30T15:22:21 i'll check that. srfsh.log says: 2008-07-30T15:22:26 srfsh 2008-07-30 13:16:12 [INFO:32508:osrf_system.c:267:] Bootstrapping system with domain evergreen-test, port 5222, and unixpath (none) 2008-07-30T15:22:28 srfsh 2008-07-30 13:16:12 [WARN:32508:transport_session.c:386:] Received message from Jabber server 2008-07-30T15:22:29 srfsh 2008-07-30 13:16:12 [DEBG:32508:socket_bundle.c:367:] removing socket 3 2008-07-30T15:22:31 srfsh 2008-07-30 13:16:12 [ERR :32508:srfsh.c:21:] Unable to bootstrap client for requests 2008-07-30T15:22:50 sylvar: raise loglevel in ~/.srfsh.xml to 5 and try again 2008-07-30T15:22:55 that will show the response from ejabberd 2008-07-30T15:24:37 srfsh 2008-07-30 13:23:52 [INT :32530:socket_bundle.c:703:] Socket 3 Read 256 bytes and data: ream='http://etherx.jabber.org/streams' id='937030314' from='localhost' xml:lang='en'>< 2008-07-30T15:24:40 /stream:error> 2008-07-30T15:24:57 *host-unknown 2008-07-30T15:25:24 does the host in ejabberd.cfg match what's in ~/.srfsh.xml? 2008-07-30T15:26:05 no, ejabberd has the FQDN 2008-07-30T15:26:40 yup, that was it 2008-07-30T15:27:12 so to derecurse a bit, the version I'm running is 1.2.2.0 2008-07-30T15:29:07 eeevil, that answers your question [2008-07-30T14:31:54]. version 1.2.2.0. perhaps I ought to upgrade before trying anything else to solve this? 2008-07-30T15:30:23 of course, that'll mean getting others to install a new client version, so I wouldn't upgrade the server without notice. If there's other things I ought to try, I will. 2008-07-30T15:30:55 At this level of recursion, the current problem is http://paste.lisp.org/display/64435#6 ("namespace error : Namespace prefix marc on record is not defined") 2008-07-30T15:43:02 any opinions? I'm leaning toward upgrading to 1.2.2.2 2008-07-30T15:44:19 yeah, i would recommend upgrading.. 1.2.2.3 is latest 2008-07-30T15:44:27 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-07-30T15:45:38 ah, OK, I've updated [[server_installation]] with a link to th 1.2.2.3 instructions as well. 2008-07-30T15:45:47 sylvar: if you want to folks to stay with the older client for a time, it should be compatible.. just have an appropriate symlink in /openils/var/web/xul/ However, there are known bugs in the older clients 2008-07-30T15:46:25 Oh, right! Duh... So I'm free to upgrade now and have the clients upgraded ASAP. thanks!! 2008-07-30T15:57:11 hmm... upgrading the schema, I get another error... will lisppaste. 2008-07-30T15:58:20 sylvar pasted "Error while upgrading 1.2.2.0 to 1.2.2.1" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/64444 2008-07-30T16:00:18 wonder if I never upgraded the schema from 1.2.1? 2008-07-30T16:00:39 well, I'm applying 1.2.1-1.2.2-upgrade-db.sql now 2008-07-30T16:08:28 which... on this slow virtual machine... will take a while 2008-07-30T16:13:50 * sylvar is looking forward to moving the database onto its own, physical!, server 2008-07-30T16:13:52 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-07-30T16:59:42 Hmm. Even after running 1.2.1-1.2.2-upgrade-db.sql, I'm still getting "psql:1.2.2.0-1.2.2.1-upgrade-db.sql:37: ERROR: relation "reporter.materialized_simple_record" does not exist" when I try to upgrade the db to 1.2.2.1 2008-07-30T17:04:01 OK, I re-ran Evergreen-ILS-1.2.2.0/Open-ILS/src/sql/Pg/reporter-schema.sql and that created it. 2008-07-30T17:14:24 *** kgs is now known as kgs_away 2008-07-30T17:44:56 *** sylvar has quit IRC 2008-07-30T17:58:58 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T19:42:18 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T19:43:24 Presentation went well today - thanks for keeping all systems go :) 2008-07-30T19:48:00 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-30T19:49:19 *** kgs_away is now known as kgs 2008-07-30T19:50:12 dbs: congrats on the preso! 2008-07-30T20:00:35 dbs: dang! I told bill to reboot the box at 10:15 ... he didn't? 2008-07-30T20:00:51 hah 2008-07-30T20:00:55 thanks kgs 2008-07-30T20:01:12 no, we didn't even get to live demos until 11:15'ish 2008-07-30T20:01:49 dbs: what did you present on--EG? 2008-07-30T20:02:12 kgs: yeah, did a project conifer update for the mcmaster crew 2008-07-30T20:02:19 kewl! 2008-07-30T20:02:27 miker_: I had too many digits on sleep xxxx && rm / ; 2008-07-30T20:02:29 probably fifty or so staff and librarians there 2008-07-30T20:02:36 arg! 2008-07-30T20:02:54 dbs: did you tell them about the slackers "working" on acquisitions? 2008-07-30T20:02:59 dbs: wow ... 2008-07-30T20:03:23 djfiander: indeed! and I had a typo saying that you were a windsor librarian 2008-07-30T20:03:50 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-07-30T20:07:10 the high turnout is probably an indication of stress 2008-07-30T20:08:07 djfiander: to the contrary, the vibe seemed quite positive 2008-07-30T20:08:18 cool 2008-07-30T20:09:00 there was some confusion about the evergreen interface vs. the capabilities of their endeca interface, but that's entirely self-inflicted :) 2008-07-30T20:10:15 ha 2008-07-30T20:10:23 what was the confusion? 2008-07-30T20:10:39 "why did you make endeca all green?" ;) 2008-07-30T20:11:49 I LOVE that you have short, persistent, URLs for bookbags, for sharing! 2008-07-30T20:14:36 miker_: no, just asking whether it would be confusing for their users to search in the new conifer catalogue and get LU and Windsor results along with the McMaster results they expect 2008-07-30T20:15:07 answer: well, you're still using endeca, so they'll see only the records and holdings that you extract - which will only be mcmaster records 2008-07-30T20:16:32 and if Endeca closes their doors, just scope your EG search to your library :) 2008-07-30T20:17:59 phasefx: well yeah. one person was worried on our LU users' behalf that the 1/1 availability stuff would be confusing, because he thought you had to click all the way down to details to find availability 2008-07-30T20:18:22 skin skin skin 2008-07-30T20:18:59 I want us to push call numbers more up front when scoped to a specific lib, too 2008-07-30T20:19:12 indeed - but on the whole, everything was quite positive about evergreen itself - more worries about cataloguing standards across universities than anything else 2008-07-30T20:19:42 and LC vs. RVM vs. MeSH subject headings authority co-existence 2008-07-30T20:20:05 phasefx: that would certainly be cool 2008-07-30T20:20:59 maybe give an option for emphasizing copy locations 2008-07-30T20:21:48 phasefx: I (and UPEI) would applaud that, too 2008-07-30T20:22:11 * phasefx can give out good (and bad) ideas all day long :) 2008-07-30T20:22:14 heh 2008-07-30T20:23:37 mike and bill have added copy location search filters 2008-07-30T20:24:02 dbs: oh! my biggest idea.... 2008-07-30T20:24:15 Let users have a way consume as well as share bookbags 2008-07-30T20:25:05 phasefx: which would naturally mirror the ability to pull selected items from someone else's picklist into a new picklist 2008-07-30T20:25:09 I give you a bookbag link and you can get pull it into your own My Account context 2008-07-30T20:25:20 yeah 2008-07-30T20:26:27 time to break for a bit. here, hold my man card as I go watch Project Runway :D 2008-07-30T20:27:27 * miker_ tears up phasefx's man card 2008-07-30T20:27:31 then burns it 2008-07-30T20:39:53 miker_: you would be happy to know that the elevate-URL-to-copy-status plan headed off some concerns about merged bibs 2008-07-30T20:40:21 ahh, good 2008-07-30T20:40:34 there was a question about whether vandelay would support transformations on import (e.g. "prepend this URL to 856u so that it directs to our proxy") 2008-07-30T20:40:42 I am indeed happy to know that 2008-07-30T20:40:53 heh... well... 2008-07-30T20:41:28 actually, you know, I think that would be better handled at display time 2008-07-30T20:42:09 miker_: well, I think theyother transformations too, like "delete all occurrences of 949" or other stuff 2008-07-30T20:42:27 that's different that transforming content, though 2008-07-30T20:42:33 that's "kill these tags" 2008-07-30T20:42:39 there was also a question about whether it's possible to have library-specific fields in the bibs search and display; I asked for use cases for that one 2008-07-30T20:43:22 miker_: call it what you will :) I asked for example use cases for everything brought up during the day that didn't seem to be in plan or already available 2008-07-30T20:43:46 it's not today (ModsParser-based mvr's), but you'll notice the display_field bool column on config.metabib_field ... 2008-07-30T20:43:48 right 2008-07-30T20:43:49 thanks 2008-07-30T20:43:58 (because lord knows that brain-dumping into IRC after a pint is a half-measure) 2008-07-30T20:44:01 fwiw, yes, vandelay will be able to strip tags 2008-07-30T20:44:07 haha 2008-07-30T20:44:23 dbs++ 2008-07-30T20:44:33 I'm just tryin' to dump right back ;) 2008-07-30T20:44:36 yeah, I said I assumed that stripping would be there - because you wouldn't want to miss out on marc2bre 2008-07-30T20:44:50 haha 2008-07-30T20:44:56 * dbs feels like a group hug, but knows its just the beer. 2008-07-30T20:45:15 and the e 2008-07-30T20:46:09 djfiander++ 2008-07-30T20:46:29 djfiander: you think I can acquire some of that in downtown windsor? no way! 2008-07-30T20:47:04 dbs: but the city has very kindly provided both a bridge and a tunnel to simplify access to illicit drugs. 2008-07-30T20:47:52 cool. Always good to continue traditions with new technologies (well, and in a reverse direction) 2008-07-30T20:48:02 heh 2008-07-30T20:48:21 Hiram Walker built there to _taunt_ the americans ;-) 2008-07-30T21:08:44 * berick notes that Starship Troopers 3 is out on DVD 2008-07-30T21:09:04 didn't know there was a 2 2008-07-30T21:09:36 me either 2008-07-30T21:09:41 but now I must watch it 2008-07-30T21:09:53 in order to validate your man card 2008-07-30T21:11:06 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-30T21:12:41 SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 2008-07-30T21:12:50 djfiander: yes, exactly 2008-07-30T21:13:06 I mean, really, who doesn't like exploding giant insects? 2008-07-30T21:13:09 REALLY?!?! 2008-07-30T21:13:19 and perfect dialog 2008-07-30T21:13:26 I know! 2008-07-30T21:13:30 even extremely campy exploding giant insects. that makes them more manly. 2008-07-30T21:13:37 oh wait. 2008-07-30T21:14:24 well, the pincers-through-limbs makes up for the you-can't-do-that-on-television slime from the bugs 2008-07-30T21:15:30 hah 2008-07-30T21:16:48 more denise the horrible actor whose last name I forget? 2008-07-30T21:17:02 crosby 2008-07-30T21:17:28 richards 2008-07-30T21:17:32 says S 2008-07-30T21:17:49 right! crosby was tasha yar 2008-07-30T21:18:25 in other news, virtualbox is more free now? 2008-07-30T21:18:49 st3 has jolene blalock in it. 2008-07-30T21:19:03 nice 2008-07-30T21:19:11 *** gmcharlt is now known as gmcharlt_away 2008-07-30T21:19:13 dbs: is it? I just know it's in my apt sources 2008-07-30T21:19:28 miker_: could be slashdot late to the party 2008-07-30T21:19:33 wow. st 1 had neil patrick harris. 2008-07-30T21:20:00 djfiander: yeah. doogie was the telepath commander guy 2008-07-30T21:22:21 yeah, the gestapo clairvoyant who said "It's afraid!" 2008-07-30T21:25:16 neil_patrick_harris++ 2008-07-30T21:25:22 dr_horrible++ 2008-07-30T21:25:23 I never watched DH. NPH is new for me 2008-07-30T21:25:26 dr_horrible++ 2008-07-30T21:26:21 djfiander: har, yes, dr_horrible++ 2008-07-30T21:26:51 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-07-30T21:27:12 no denise richards in st 2 or 3 2008-07-30T21:27:52 dr_horrible++ indeed 2008-07-30T21:29:04 *** rsinger_ has quit IRC 2008-07-30T21:31:03 berick: you want to poke at the acq database? 2008-07-30T21:31:25 have you tried rebuilding the db from scratch since last we spoke? 2008-07-30T21:31:30 miker_: yeah, let's 2008-07-30T21:31:40 no, i have not, but nothing really changed 2008-07-30T21:31:50 i mean, i wasn't sure what to change to test 2008-07-30T21:32:10 well, did you try the whole thing after I fixed the acq file problem in build-db.sh? 2008-07-30T21:33:08 no, i only tried manually \i'ing the acq schema file 2008-07-30T21:33:50 yeah ... I think there are more issues masked by the initial big failure 2008-07-30T21:38:22 * kgs has given up on government issuing her a car and is now downloading new car price markup lists from Consumer Reports 2008-07-30T21:38:34 communist 2008-07-30T21:41:38 ha 2008-07-30T21:42:09 brb 2008-07-30T21:50:07 * dbs is listening to kgs' ala round table discussion 2008-07-30T21:50:45 I don't think the psychedelic visualization from rhythmbox is all that appropriate though :) 2008-07-30T21:51:04 the e must be wearing off 2008-07-30T21:51:33 djfiander++ # got my dealer on speeddial 2008-07-30T21:52:04 * djfiander has the mind of a ninja, and the body of a manatee 2008-07-30T21:52:34 * kgs imagines manatees north of the border... hmmmm 2008-07-30T21:53:04 * kgs believes those are actually baby seals 2008-07-30T21:53:37 http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/060811.html 2008-07-30T21:54:13 * kgs snort 2008-07-30T21:54:23 well, we use the e for going clubbing with seals. 2008-07-30T21:54:26 or something. 2008-07-30T21:55:16 har 2008-07-30T22:00:53 *** kgs is now known as kgs_away 2008-07-30T22:08:50 berick: so ... eh? reload of the schema from the start help? 2008-07-30T22:09:59 miker_: whatever makes the most sense. 2008-07-30T22:10:20 i can set up a throwaway db on acq if that's easiest 2008-07-30T22:10:59 oh, I thought you were going to try it on your box ... 2008-07-30T22:11:01 vbox 2008-07-30T22:11:30 I'll beat up acq.o.o 2008-07-30T22:11:30 hell, just createdb dumbasstest 2008-07-30T22:12:11 yeah, I am 2008-07-30T22:12:53 * dbs passes the dumbasstest - does that make me a dumbass? 2008-07-30T22:13:18 it makes me one, I guess 2008-07-30T22:14:32 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-07-30T22:16:52 dangit 2008-07-30T22:17:32 tried it locally, can email my error log if it will help 2008-07-30T22:18:05 it's the gettext function 2008-07-30T22:19:54 but ... I don't know why it's not working :( 2008-07-30T22:22:14 arg... 2008-07-30T22:22:37 no implicit cast from unknown to text in 8.2??? 2008-07-30T22:23:37 no ... that's not it... 2008-07-30T22:24:47 wth... 2008-07-30T22:28:09 w. t. h. 2008-07-30T22:30:50 * dbs bzr ups acq-experiment to join in the fun 2008-07-30T22:31:32 dbs: with the new reshuffling of ... everything ... 002.functions.config.sql isn't being imported 2008-07-30T22:31:33 tired of listening to abram 2008-07-30T22:31:37 no idea why, though 2008-07-30T22:32:59 ahh ... well, that's why 2008-07-30T22:33:12 the config /schema/ needs to come before the functions 2008-07-30T22:33:21 damn 2008-07-30T22:33:49 and of course that would only be visible on a brand new database, because the schema would already be there for a rebuild 2008-07-30T22:34:27 eah 2008-07-30T22:34:28 yeah 2008-07-30T22:35:25 ok .. there we go 2008-07-30T22:35:28 my bad, obviously. 2008-07-30T22:35:39 meh 2008-07-30T22:35:44 no biggie 2008-07-30T22:36:26 * dbs mentally adds "dropdb testdb; createdb testdb;" to his 2nd life set of unit tests 2008-07-30T22:36:36 heh 2008-07-30T22:38:01 berick: checking in updates in a sec 2008-07-30T22:38:50 righto 2008-07-30T22:39:32 berick: build-db.sh should be much happier now 2008-07-30T22:39:38 * berick wonders if djfiander experimented with the search api call any 2008-07-30T22:39:42 miker_++ 2008-07-30T22:39:45 i'll give 'er a try over here 2008-07-30T22:39:47 we should quiet PG down during schema build 2008-07-30T22:40:03 yeah, the notices? 2008-07-30T22:40:04 berick: you'll want to drop the db and add everything back 2008-07-30T22:40:07 k 2008-07-30T22:40:09 yeah 2008-07-30T22:40:15 agreed on quieting 2008-07-30T22:40:33 all of it, and grep -v the "schema's not there, ya dope" error messages too 2008-07-30T22:43:40 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-07-30T22:47:36 miker_: i have an acq. schema now. yay. i see a couple of "aggregate blah does not exist", if that means anything 2008-07-30T22:48:27 no, that's fine 2008-07-30T22:49:37 cool 2008-07-30T22:49:47 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T22:51:15 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-07-30T22:53:39 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-07-30T23:04:04 so ... we're nearing 1.2.3 time. as dbs mentioned, we're officially overdue, but I'm going to push the date in trac ;) 2008-07-30T23:05:43 berick: would it be onerous to put your can_have_vols opac copy summary patch into place in 1.2 and trunk? 2008-07-30T23:07:40 miker_: the recent fix to display items when orgtree has only 1 org? 2008-07-30T23:07:46 right 2008-07-30T23:07:52 it's already there 2008-07-30T23:07:58 ahh! 2008-07-30T23:08:01 berick++ 2008-07-30T23:08:07 rad 2008-07-30T23:08:08 thanks 2008-07-30T23:08:19 * miker_ cancels trac ticket :) 2008-07-30T23:08:24 ;) 2008-07-30T23:08:59 the only thing i have left for 1.2.3 (that comes to mind, anyway) is some initial comments from the selfcheck stuff 2008-07-30T23:09:09 i know there's gonna be some round-1 quick fixes 2008-07-30T23:09:37 indeed 2008-07-30T23:09:51 I think phasefx may have a couple things... 2008-07-30T23:10:35 i've got nothing. 2008-07-30T23:11:08 berick: what's the plan for dojo distribution in 1.2.3? 2008-07-30T23:11:23 miker_: it's my understanding dojo will not be a part of 1.2.3 2008-07-30T23:11:35 doesn't selfcheck us it? 2008-07-30T23:11:39 use 2008-07-30T23:11:48 no, it's dojo-free because of 1.2.3 2008-07-30T23:12:04 wt ... 2008-07-30T23:12:11 Logo: "Our new Evergreen - it's as easy as 1.2.3 2008-07-30T23:12:11 was firebug just lying to me? 2008-07-30T23:12:30 dbs++ 2008-07-30T23:12:51 miker_: i think it was 2008-07-30T23:13:04 that's ... so odd 2008-07-30T23:13:48 wth... I see it here! 2008-07-30T23:14:59 ohhh 2008-07-30T23:15:10 i bet the dojo patch was applied to dev opac 2008-07-30T23:15:15 and selfcheck loads some of the opac files 2008-07-30T23:15:26 ahh... ok 2008-07-30T23:15:47 rel_1_2 vs. rel_1_2_3? 2008-07-30T23:16:14 dbs: hm? 2008-07-30T23:16:44 Sorry, just wondering if I mistakenly applied the dojo patch to rel_1_2 2008-07-30T23:16:47 but no 2008-07-30T23:16:55 discombobulated 2008-07-30T23:17:08 nah.. just some testing of new code on dev (trunk) 2008-07-30T23:17:18 s/dev/dev.gapines.org/ 2008-07-30T23:26:21 btw: thanks for helping slazer today - although LD_LIBRARY_PATH shouldn't be necessary if ldconfig is set properly in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/eg.conf 2008-07-30T23:26:43 but hey, it got him over that hump 2008-07-30T23:27:21 yeah, i'm not sure why that did it exactly 2008-07-30T23:27:58 it was weird, cause yesterday ldconfig -p showed /openils/lib/lib* being found, but none of the non lib-prefixed shared libs 2008-07-30T23:29:22 looks same on the acq box. no non-lib* results 2008-07-30T23:29:23 as for dojo stuff not working - I wonder whether osrf_http_translator is working for him / if /openils/var/web/js/dojo/* is set up properly 2008-07-30T23:32:52 yeah - I get the same here, but also don't have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set 2008-07-30T23:33:33 Hmm. I think he's on Gutsy rather than Hardy 2008-07-30T23:34:32 berick: re the locale switcher, since we have 1) a dojo-ish way of getting supported locales and 2) good book-ending (between opac/ and /skin) of the locale value, would you like me to take a stab at that in trunk? I'm thinking location.href.replace(/opac\/([^\/])\/skin/, 'opac/'+new_locale+'/skin') should do it, eh? 2008-07-30T23:36:52 miker_: yeah, i say go for it 2008-07-30T23:37:19 that looks like it's about all it will take 2008-07-30T23:37:37 yeah 2008-07-30T23:38:08 and I want to get rid of the SSI locale stuff, at least as far as dojo goes 2008-07-30T23:38:14 or just use it as a last resort 2008-07-30T23:39:07 yeah 2008-07-30T23:39:10 cool 2008-07-30T23:40:11 I'm meeting with Tigran from Armenia tomorrow; he might have some updated Armenian translations for us to play with 2008-07-30T23:51:43 semi-interesting chart showing # of commits by committer to Evergreen and OpenSRF since September 2007: http://bzr.coffeecode.net/Evergreen%20commits.png 2008-07-30T23:52:04 (of course, 90% of mine are of the typo variety) 2008-07-30T23:53:03 wow ... neet 2008-07-30T23:54:54 that is cool 2008-07-30T23:56:14 that also assumes that bzr isn't lying to me via the cheap approach of: bzr log -l 1200 | grep committer: | sort | uniq -c 2008-07-30T23:57:19 updating dev 2008-07-30T23:58:09 more distractions: http://fsoss.senecac.on.ca/2008/?q=node/32