2008-08-21T00:12:20 Okay - let's hope that commit works 2008-08-21T00:19:44 hrm.. I wonder if xulrunner has native sqlite support like ffx does/did ... 2008-08-21T00:23:37 sqlite is so ubiquitous that it's almost more of a surprise when it's not already available 2008-08-21T00:24:00 heh 2008-08-21T00:24:01 yeah 2008-08-21T00:24:24 I'm thinking about staff client storage 2008-08-21T00:24:35 instead of using random JSON text files 2008-08-21T00:24:47 also, for the barred/blocked list in offline mode 2008-08-21T00:25:24 (and, perhaps, the ability to download an "item status" sqlite table for bookmobiles) 2008-08-21T00:26:10 I know ... crazy talk :) 2008-08-21T00:27:14 http://developer.mozilla.org/index.php?title=En/XULRunner/What_XULRunner_Provides&highlight=xulrunner+sqlite 2008-08-21T00:27:38 apparently it's there, but not turned on by default 2008-08-21T00:28:03 luckily we can control both the horizontal AND the vertical 2008-08-21T00:28:06 what, storing data in a database instead of files? yeah, you're nuts 2008-08-21T00:28:12 for "official" builds, anyway 2008-08-21T00:28:45 what have they done to the MDC? 2008-08-21T00:29:11 i mean, aside from deciding it was too readable 2008-08-21T00:32:22 broken most of the links 2008-08-21T00:42:35 okay, sleepy time 2008-08-21T00:42:37 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-08-21T00:48:42 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-08-21T01:00:09 miker_: 1.9 xulrunner should have mozStorage.. I think the page dbs found is old 2008-08-21T01:00:35 http://developer.mozilla.org/En/Storage 2008-08-21T01:01:50 incidentally, this might make a good global stash replacement for the xpcom hack we're doing now: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/Storage 2008-08-21T01:17:53 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T06:42:56 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-08-21T07:07:00 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T08:07:07 @later tell dbs I'm a little confused with the i18n patch, but it's probably just me ... I'll grab you when I get into the office 2008-08-21T08:07:07 miker_: The operation succeeded. 2008-08-21T08:11:50 *** Slazer has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T08:12:35 *** kbeswick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T08:33:38 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T10:00:35 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T10:21:29 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T11:44:44 *** kbeswick has quit IRC 2008-08-21T12:26:36 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-08-21T14:09:33 dbs: fyi, the apache on your vmware image doesn't expose the symbolic links you have for xul versions. Also, HEAD appears to be linked to an older version for xul server files 2008-08-21T14:14:27 phasefx: which version of the image? 2008-08-21T14:15:03 miker_: fire away if you're confused, I have to go pick up some lunch 2008-08-21T14:16:06 dbs: 1.2.2.3 2008-08-21T14:16:13 hrm 2008-08-21T14:16:36 phasefx: wanna fix it, upgrade it to 1.2.3.0, and upload it? 2008-08-21T14:17:39 I've been real busy connecting cables and switching printers here. 2008-08-21T14:17:46 KILL ME. KILL ME. KILL ME. 2008-08-21T14:17:51 haha 2008-08-21T14:17:59 I can poke on it next week 2008-08-21T14:20:18 dbs: my confusion was about the pkey on used to mark the seed data. the value was what I expected (a number) but what I though would be "id" in most cases was usually a text field ("name" or the like) ... or am I totally missing something? this was in the use of the gettext marker function 2008-08-21T14:25:28 well, audience map and stuff like that have text primary keys 2008-08-21T14:25:42 unless I've messed that up, too. 2008-08-21T14:26:41 dbs pasted "for example, cam" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/65663 2008-08-21T14:38:49 dbs: eeevil: how 'bout a "locale" virtual field on the actor.usr object? 2008-08-21T14:42:35 s/how 'bout/any objection to/ 2008-08-21T14:44:03 berick: no objection 2008-08-21T14:44:16 best of all worls 2008-08-21T14:44:18 worlds 2008-08-21T14:44:20 and whorls 2008-08-21T14:44:27 whirleds 2008-08-21T14:58:44 dbs: maybe this will cheer you up a little http://news.oreilly.com/2008/08/the-test-anything-protocol-iet.html 2008-08-21T14:58:51 tap tap tap 2008-08-21T14:58:57 "Is this thing on?" 2008-08-21T14:59:27 the ietf thing is cool 2008-08-21T14:59:55 yeah, i've been really happy about tap being implemented in various places 2008-08-21T15:00:11 i'm slowly working on a lisp implementation -- not that i expect much traction there :) 2008-08-21T15:07:15 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-08-21T15:10:31 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-08-21T15:11:43 *** Slazer has quit IRC 2008-08-21T15:23:02 miker_: eeevil: so do you still think I'm on crack, or what? oh - are you talking about the fourth parameter to oils_i18n_gettext()? 2008-08-21T15:23:38 I suppose I should turn this into a real comment on oils_i18n_gettext(): -- Parameters are: primary key, string, class hint, property 2008-08-21T15:24:08 hrm... but ... the identity_field is "what's the primary key for this table" 2008-08-21T15:26:25 I may be the one on crack ... looking 2008-08-21T15:27:09 no, I'm on crack 2008-08-21T15:27:20 well, you made me look :) 2008-08-21T15:28:18 fq_field is {class}.{translated field}, identity_value is the pkey value, and identity_field is how the translator stored proc knows what identity_value actually points at (column-wise) 2008-08-21T15:28:29 so, yeah, nevermind me 2008-08-21T15:29:07 dbs: I'll update the wiki page for the VMWare image so a) it reflects what'sin the readme file and b) notes that for now it doesn't automatically work with teh staff client 2008-08-21T15:29:31 kgs: I noticed you had been plugging away at that 2008-08-21T15:29:43 kgs: please, take over the VMWare images themselves 2008-08-21T15:29:49 well, it would have helped if I had looked at the readme 2008-08-21T15:30:32 or if I had versioned the wiki variation on the README accordingly 2008-08-21T15:30:39 well, um yeah ;) 2008-08-21T15:30:49 and not uploaded an apparently broken image 2008-08-21T15:30:55 and on and on 2008-08-21T15:31:47 * berick hugs dbs 2008-08-21T15:31:48 but it was a great learning experience! 2008-08-21T15:31:58 * dbs crumples into bits 2008-08-21T15:32:09 I feel so much smarter... I am using a sling to hold my head up! 2008-08-21T15:32:16 * kgs hugs dbs 2008-08-21T15:32:22 kgs++ # always looking on the bright side of life 2008-08-21T15:32:57 yeah, like we have enough water and granola bars to survive for DAYS if Fay hits us!! 2008-08-21T15:33:53 one question: should I explicitly state at teh top of the page: Evergreen [version] on Debian VMWare image? 2008-08-21T15:36:30 and one more and then I'll go away: where it says "This is optional, but if you extract the Evergreen_Debian folder to a root directory (for example, c:\Evergreen_Debian), you may be able to skip modifying the hostname (several steps below)." -- is this now obsolete? 2008-08-21T15:42:33 I know nothing about modifying the hostname or nto 2008-08-21T15:42:47 Explicitly stating the version sounds like a good idea 2008-08-21T15:46:53 thankee sir! 2008-08-21T15:57:23 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-08-21T15:57:38 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T16:29:00 dbs: you know that newsletter idea? I'm finally grabbing hold of it and trying to make it happen 2008-08-21T16:53:41 kgs: yay 2008-08-21T16:54:19 thank you for suggesting it! 2008-08-21T16:54:46 gotta run now - power outage in t-5 minutes 2008-08-21T16:55:06 my pleasure! "Hey, here's an idea that will cause more work for somebody..." 2008-08-21T16:55:38 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-08-21T16:59:12 why does the power go out every day at 5PM in The Canadas? 2008-08-21T16:59:40 i should totally give him a shell to run irssi from 2008-08-21T17:03:37 denials: <--- also dbs 2008-08-21T17:04:03 can irssi ring a bell through putty? 2008-08-21T17:05:55 not if you filter that sort of thing :) 2008-08-21T17:06:08 but otherwise, if there's a BEL, it prints a BEL 2008-08-21T17:06:12 up to the terminal at that point 2008-08-21T17:07:30 why? were you planning to people to death? 2008-08-21T17:09:16 would like an easy way for irssi to grab my attention sometimes.. I often place my work window over my irssi window such that just my status bar is visible 2008-08-21T17:09:28 but would rather use that space 2008-08-21T17:51:45 *** _bott_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** phasefx2_ has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** kados has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** atheos has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** bradl has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** pmurray_away has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** eeevil has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** asmodai has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:11 *** berick has quit IRC 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** kados has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** asmodai has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** phasefx2_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** berick has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** bradl has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** atheos has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** eeevil has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:22:32 *** pmurray_away has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T19:30:43 *** kgs_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T20:01:29 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-08-21T20:04:16 *** phase_bb has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T20:07:47 <_bott_> is there a method to pull a sum of the current fines for an open circulation? 2008-08-21T20:14:37 If there isnt, it be easy to add one (so to speak) 2008-08-21T20:16:26 <_bott_> I was hunting through methods, but didn't find one. ...didn't look that hard either ;) 2008-08-21T20:21:07 *** kgs_ has quit IRC 2008-08-21T20:21:30 I know there's a sum method for the patron, and retrieve billings and retrieve payments for a circ 2008-08-21T20:24:26 And of course, there are cstore methods which can get just about anything, but they're not available to the opac or staff client 2008-08-21T20:26:44 <_bott_> I'm working on a request for some additional data from the fine generator. In this case, current fine for the specific overdue item. 2008-08-21T20:28:50 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T20:30:04 In that case, you can almost send sql through cstore.. There is some json-query language 2008-08-21T20:30:22 Dont know if it can do aggregates 2008-08-21T20:30:30 Bbl 2008-08-21T20:30:51 _bott_: the fine generator knows that. it's used to make sure the patron isn't over-fined (don't pass max-fine) 2008-08-21T20:31:06 _bott_: are you looking to log that in the fine generator? 2008-08-21T20:32:06 <_bott_> oops, sorry, not the fine generator... the overdue notices. That would make more sense 2008-08-21T20:33:18 ahh .. yes, sum per transaction exists, but I doubt the overdue notice stuff has access to it now. 2008-08-21T20:33:21 *** kgs_away has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T20:34:05 you may be interested in looking at the recent overdue notice work that berick's been doing -- it includes pre-overdue notices, and much more flexible templating 2008-08-21T20:34:57 it's in trunk right now, but testing it on 1.2.3 may be possible in the near future 2008-08-21T20:35:29 <_bott_> I'll do that, thanks! 2008-08-21T20:38:09 in the mean time, let me see if I can find you a "sum for the transaction" method 2008-08-21T20:38:25 it exists ... but it's deep in the system 2008-08-21T20:39:45 open-ils.storate.money.billable_transaction.summary.search 2008-08-21T20:40:18 that takes a list of one or more transaction IDs and returns them in a stream (or an array if you call the .atomic version) 2008-08-21T20:40:25 in srfsh: 2008-08-21T20:41:01 # request open-ils.storage open-ils.storage.money.billable_transaction.summary.search 1 2008-08-21T20:41:20 _bott_: --^ 2008-08-21T20:41:25 <_bott_> gotcha 2008-08-21T20:41:26 where 1 is the transaction id 2008-08-21T20:41:28 k 2008-08-21T20:55:31 *** _bott_ has left #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-08-21T21:11:48 *** kgs_away has quit IRC 2008-08-21T21:41:15 *** kgs_away has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T21:55:14 *** kgs_away is now known as kgs_ 2008-08-21T22:00:58 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-08-21T22:44:41 *** _bott1 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T22:47:12 <_bott1> Just to get this in the logs... I didn't have any luck with: open-ils.storage.money.billable_transaction.summary.search 2008-08-21T22:47:32 <_bott1> but: open-ils.cstore.direct.money.billable_transaction_summary.retrieve works wonders 2008-08-21T22:54:14 _bott1: that'll work well for now, but the plan based on the view definition breaks down with many millions of circs ... or, that's my recollection 2008-08-21T22:54:25 testing will tell, of course :) 2008-08-21T22:56:41 btw, BMX supercross... best olympic sport ever 2008-08-21T22:56:53 people dropping like flies 2008-08-21T23:04:53 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-08-21T23:07:48 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-08-21T23:08:10 *** _bott1 has left #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T23:29:33 *** mib_w0tdby has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-08-21T23:31:12 *** kgs_ has quit IRC 2008-08-21T23:31:15 *** mib_w0tdby has quit IRC