--- Log opened Fri Aug 29 00:00:51 2008 01:29 -!- Mark__T [n=Mark__T@bluemchen.kde.org] has joined #openils-evergreen 03:29 -!- phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m1e5e36d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:33 -!- kgs [n=chatzill@46.52.217.216.transedge.com] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 04:35 -!- kgs [n=chatzill@46.52.217.216.transedge.com] has joined #openils-evergreen 05:47 -!- Mark__T [n=Mark__T@bluemchen.kde.org] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 08:33 -!- phase_bb [n=phase_bb@m645e36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #openils-evergreen 09:28 -!- kgs [n=chatzill@46.52.217.216.transedge.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:35 -!- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/denials] has joined #openils-evergreen 09:49 -!- _bott_ [n=root@NAT-staff.grpl.org] has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 10:03 -!- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/denials] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:39 -!- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/denials] has joined #openils-evergreen 10:41 < kbeswick_> so i had an evergreen moment last night in my sleep 10:42 * _bott_ is suppressing all of his wood comments 10:42 < kbeswick_> i was staying at my girlfriends, and apparently i woke up i nthe middle of the night, sat up , and said "what was that thing with evergreen? equinox... what... how... i cant remember... dbs?..." 10:42 < kbeswick_> and i couldn't speak right apparently 10:42 < dbs> kbeswick_: oh, no 10:43 < kbeswick_> then i went back to sleep 10:43 < kbeswick_> i only vaguely remember it, i thought it was a dream 10:43 < kbeswick_> but apparently it really happened 10:44 < dbs> kbeswick_: that's kind of freaky, man 10:44 < kbeswick_> i could never remember what i was trying to remember, which probably was actually nothing 10:44 < kbeswick_> dbs: i know 10:44 < dbs> kbeswick_: maybe "so what do I do next?" :) 10:44 < kbeswick_> dbs: hahahaha 10:44 < kbeswick_> dbs: and i didnt call you dan, or anything.. it was "dbs" 10:49 < berick> heh, the night tremors begin! 10:50 < kbeswick_> i need help!! 10:51 < dbs> You've got a sickness, and there's only one cure... MORE OPENSRF 10:53 < _bott_> They say you really know a language when you start dreaming in it. ...I think I had COBOL nightmares in college 11:03 < kbeswick_> ping 11:04 < dbs> kbeswick_: pong 11:04 < kbeswick_> hmm.. the rest of my internet isn't working.. 11:04 < kbeswick_> oh wait, it is now 14:14 -!- mlasater [n=chatzill@150.199.116.36] has quit ["ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 3.0.1/2008070208]"] 16:10 -!- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/denials] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 16:30 -!- agJohn [n=chatzill@204-228-148-133.ip.xmission.com] has joined #openils-evergreen 16:31 < agJohn> Can someone advise me on how to deal with this error (trying to install 1.2.3.0): 16:31 < agJohn> 16:31 < agJohn> opensrf@debian:~/Evergreen-ILS-1.2.3.0$ make install 16:31 < agJohn> Installing... 16:31 < agJohn> A build error occured: We don't have write access to /openils//var/sock 16:31 < agJohn> make: *** [install] Error 99 16:32 < agJohn> 16:32 < agJohn> I don't know from sockets.... 16:34 < berick> agJohn: it's just a file permission issue. are you installing as root? 16:35 < agJohn> Duh. No... 16:36 < agJohn> Thanks! 17:25 < jeff> hooray! 17:25 < jeff> i think i'm done pulling teeth 17:25 < jeff> i mean, extracting data. 17:27 < berick> you mean pulling teeth :) 17:28 < miker_> jeff: thanks, man. just got the email :) 17:28 < miker_> I'll go grab it now 17:29 < miker_> well ... no I won't ;) 17:30 < miker_> but Don will. soon. 17:40 < miker_> biab 17:41 < agJohn> Anyone able to tell me briefly where the labels and tooltips for the MARC tags and fields come from? Wondering about how easy it would be to have alternate labels/format for this info.... 17:44 < phasefx> probably marcedit-tooltips.xml 17:48 < phasefx> but 1.4 will be handling that differently.. I think that file gets generated from an i18n'able dataset 18:04 < miker_> that's the right file, and it'll stay there for 1.4, but may get translated via a dtd 18:06 < agJohn> Cool. So it looks like it we needed to have different groups of users with quite different displays of the MARC data, that would be relatively straightforward, right? 18:09 < agJohn> It looks like it'd involve modifying the marcedit.js, .css, & .xul stuff mostly.... 18:41 < miker_> well... wait 18:42 < miker_> (I mean, you don't have to wait, but ... what are the use cases?) 20:09 < agJohn> miker_: Sorry to be slow getting back to you. (Waiting is built in.) Here's the prospective user's description for one of the 5 catalogs they need: Customized display labels much different from the labels for books and serials, see example above. (Turns out, as I look at it more closely, that what they're looking for is different displays for the OPAC side rather than the cataloging view.... 20:09 < agJohn> ...I'm not entirely clear on the mechanisms for doing that, but my impression is that's straightforward--right?) 20:11 < agJohn> The example in question is a description of a sculpture, rather than a book, so the labels are Artist, Provenance, Object Type, Exhibition, and such. 20:12 < agJohn> As opposed to Author, Contents, ... 20:14 < agJohn> I was thinking they'd want to have different displays of the edited MARC data, but that doesn't appear to be the case--although the usage of tags might be unusual. 20:40 -!- kgs_onroad [n=kgs@c-69-254-162-212.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #openils-evergreen 20:41 -!- kgs_onroad is now known as kgs 21:02 -!- Netsplit heinlein.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: scottmcd, berick, asmodai, eeevil, pmurray_away, atheos, phasefx2_, bradl 21:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: scottmcd, eeevil, asmodai, phasefx2_, berick, bradl, atheos, pmurray_away 21:34 -!- dbs [n=dan@76-10-146-155.dsl.teksavvy.com] has joined #openils-evergreen 21:34 < dbs> dangnabbit, irc logs are b0rked again 21:34 < dbs> pinesol - where you at? 21:44 < phasefx> pinesol is having dns issues 21:50 < dbs> Tomorrow I'll throw my lame-o coffeecode logs in place again 21:50 -!- pinesol [n=supybot@209.168.247.198] has joined #openils-evergreen 21:51 < phasefx> dbs++ 21:52 < phasefx> USG-- 21:52 < dbs> usg? 21:52 < phasefx> their dns servers have been having issues lately 21:52 < phasefx> university system of georgia 21:53 < dbs> ahh 21:53 < dbs> either compromised by the massive dns vulnerability, or having problems patching / putting new dns daemons in place 21:54 < phasefx> I think the latter 21:54 < dbs> I hope :) 21:55 < phasefx> yeah, they've said as much 21:55 -!- agJohn [n=chatzill@204-228-148-133.ip.xmission.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:55 < phasefx> combined with increased traffic and under powered servers 22:06 < dbs> well - gnite - have a good long weekend 22:06 -!- dbs [n=dan@pdpc/supporter/active/denials] has quit ["Leaving"] --- Log closed Sat Aug 30 00:00:08 2008