2008-09-02T00:22:04 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-09-02T01:24:22 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T02:42:08 *** kgs_ has quit IRC 2008-09-02T04:46:25 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-02T04:49:00 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-02T05:12:54 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T05:13:47 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T07:30:51 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T08:32:22 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-09-02T08:49:21 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T09:34:44 *** sylvar has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T09:35:48 Morning all! I've finally got a physical server, not a virtual server, for our database. I've got it set up at the postgres level (I can log in from the virtual server, which will be our network server for now). 2008-09-02T09:35:58 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-09-02T09:37:09 I've changed "localhost" to the physical server's IP address in opensrf.xml. I'm guessing I need to make some other changes too. 2008-09-02T09:37:59 sylvar pasted "gateway.log" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/66197 2008-09-02T09:39:15 Can anyone spot what I'm doing wrong? I'm sure it'll be easier than finding Waldo. 2008-09-02T09:40:17 sylvar: DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: could not access file "$libdir/plperl": No such file or directory -- does your DB have plperl installed? 2008-09-02T09:40:42 the new DB server? no, it might not. I'll do that. 2008-09-02T09:41:51 sylvar: well, it's part of the standard wiki install instructions for setting up the EG DB 2008-09-02T09:41:56 if that helps 2008-09-02T09:42:29 hmm, I think I'd better run through those as if I were doing this from scratch. Sorry. 2008-09-02T09:42:29 or if you did a pg_dump, pg_restore should create the languages for you 2008-09-02T09:42:41 sylvar: yeah, that's probably a good idea in any case 2008-09-02T09:44:48 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-02T09:45:10 FF users, when you load this link, do you get a list of records or just debug output? http://dev.gapines.org/~erickson/vandelay.html?ses=6b85f43747c6fa176b3a21b57da74e2b&qid=16&qtype=bib 2008-09-02T09:45:25 hmm, this is considerably better.. "DBD::Pg::st execute failed: no connection to the server". So at least we've got the previous problem fixed. 2008-09-02T09:46:09 berick: records and an embedded debug box at the bottom 2008-09-02T09:46:10 FF3.0.1 on a Mac... I get debug. 2008-09-02T09:46:26 berick: records grid 2008-09-02T09:46:38 will you reload once or twice? :) 2008-09-02T09:46:51 i'm just getting a survey to see how widespread my problem is 2008-09-02T09:46:52 and a debug box at the bottom (FF 3.0.1 on Linux (Hardy 32-bit) 2008-09-02T09:46:56 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-02T09:47:16 _firebugWin.console.clear is not a function - but still reloaded nicely 2008-09-02T09:47:17 ah, now I get records with the debug box at the bottom 2008-09-02T09:47:44 ok, thanks guys 2008-09-02T09:48:17 i seem to have stumbled into a ajax multipart bug of some sort, at least, that's where the trail leads 2008-09-02T09:49:02 a timing bug, that is. put an alert in, and it always works as expected 2008-09-02T09:50:15 Does the DB server need to have ejabberd or OpenSRF set up on it, or does Evergreen just talk to it over 5432? 2008-09-02T09:50:54 the DB server only needs postgres and it's dependencies 2008-09-02T09:50:57 sylvar: evergreen just talks to it over 5432 2008-09-02T09:51:44 The install instructions seem to be tuned for a single-host setup. I'd add to the wishlist: write instructions for multi-server setup. 2008-09-02T09:52:05 in our copious free time, of course :) 2008-09-02T09:55:28 sylvar: well, that was the idea 2008-09-02T09:55:43 *nod* 2008-09-02T09:56:26 I'm making sure DBD::Pg is up to date on my network server. 2008-09-02T09:57:03 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-09-02T10:02:00 How odd. Now it can't find JSON::XS. 2008-09-02T10:02:35 sylvar annotated #66197 with "can't find JSON::XS" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/66197#1 2008-09-02T10:02:54 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-02T10:03:46 sylvar: just run Makefile.install 2008-09-02T10:03:49 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-09-02T10:05:37 hey, nice! 2008-09-02T10:07:37 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T10:21:03 dbs/kgs - don't reckon either of you got a chance to edit that document I sent? 2008-09-02T10:29:51 dbs: OK, ran make -f /usr/local/src/Evergreen-ILS-1.2.2.3/Open-ILS/src/extras/Makefile.install ubuntu, then restarted OpenSRF, then tried again; same error about JSON::XS. 2008-09-02T10:31:09 *** mdxi is now known as sboyette 2008-09-02T10:36:27 skmurphy: not yet :( 2008-09-02T10:37:15 i may take another pass at it today, since a weekend has passed since i thought about it... i also /started/ on one covering report template creation, but that's a bear to write about 2008-09-02T10:38:25 I'm really, really sorry. it was on my to-do for this morning, but boss's workstation blew up 2008-09-02T10:38:35 Oh dear 2008-09-02T10:41:50 OK, I've reverted to the old setup, ignoring the database server. I'll upgrade the system to 1.2.3 and use its Makefile.install, then try to get the database server separated out again. 2008-09-02T10:46:32 *** mib_aye1u2 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T10:48:42 berick++ # loving the tickets! 2008-09-02T10:52:08 skmurphy: in a meeting about tomorrow's meeting sorry... I do mean to get to it! I did skim it 2008-09-02T11:14:48 *** _dkyle1 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T11:22:12 *** pmurray_away is now known as pmurray 2008-09-02T11:23:16 *** pmurray has left #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T11:29:30 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T11:36:13 phasefx: Got a question for you.... Can you point me to where the data is that associates a particular portion of the MARC record with the label for it (in the OPAC, I mean). That is, in the typical OPAC display of a title (in a list or in a single record display), the author info would be labeled "Author"--I'm not having any luck figuring out exactly where that association is made and I... 2008-09-02T11:36:15 ...need to be able to make some changes to show a prospect that it can be done. 2008-09-02T11:37:13 Actually, I'd be happy to have an answer to that question from anyone.... ;-) 2008-09-02T11:46:47 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-02T11:46:47 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-02T11:48:22 agJohn: look for record_to_mvr in AppUtils.pm 2008-09-02T11:48:54 *** rsinger_ is now known as rsinger 2008-09-02T11:48:57 Thanks much! 2008-09-02T12:04:03 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-09-02T12:07:09 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-09-02T12:07:26 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T12:10:37 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-09-02T12:17:59 kgs: happy birthday! 2008-09-02T12:18:05 d'ohh 2008-09-02T12:20:01 permissions question: what does "container" mean, in the context of "CREATE_MY_CONTAINER" or "DELETE_CONTAINER" 2008-09-02T12:20:14 Is it 'bucket'? 2008-09-02T12:20:18 is that a book bucket? 2008-09-02T12:20:26 ah, that was going to be my guess too 2008-09-02T12:20:47 but let's see what the coders say :) 2008-09-02T12:21:45 bookbags, item/record buckets, etc 2008-09-02T12:21:51 thats what i was thinking 2008-09-02T12:27:19 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T12:28:24 op, i found it 2008-09-02T12:28:27 we were right, sylvar 2008-09-02T13:03:30 another perms question! 2008-09-02T13:03:38 what is the "Copy exceeds range" event? 2008-09-02T13:03:57 any context? 2008-09-02T13:04:03 permssion name 2008-09-02T13:04:12 CIRC_EXCEEDS_COPY_RANGE.override 2008-09-02T13:07:01 skmurphy: looks to me like an option in the permit scripts... 2008-09-02T13:07:06 skmurphy: i don't think anyone is using that event (and subsequent perm). IIR, it's meant to prevent patrons from checking item out if their home lib is not the branch or in the system or whatever 2008-09-02T13:07:24 that perm would allow the staff to override that event 2008-09-02T13:08:52 *** mrpeters-isl has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T13:10:03 thanks 2008-09-02T13:13:02 good afternoon mrpeters-isl 2008-09-02T13:17:31 hello 2008-09-02T13:17:58 hows it going? 2008-09-02T13:18:14 very well thank 2008-09-02T13:20:52 dbs: 2008-09-02T13:21:15 i updated the http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=evergreen-user:permission_list 2008-09-02T14:06:12 skmurphy: where can I send the gold doubloons? 2008-09-02T14:07:11 oooh! doubloons! 2008-09-02T14:08:52 I didn't verify on every one of those, but most of them I'm familiar with so I think the descriptions are fairly accurate 2008-09-02T14:40:26 *** _dkyle1 has left #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T15:08:13 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-09-02T15:20:45 OK, so VIEW_ZIP_DATA "allows user to query the zip code data method", but what good does that do a user? Why would someone need to be denied permission to look at ZIP codes? 2008-09-02T15:21:39 Homeland Security measures? 2008-09-02T15:21:55 sylvar: everything gets a permission by default unless it is shown not to need one. nobody's asked for that permission to be removed yet :) 2008-09-02T15:22:18 it's been around for a loooong time 2008-09-02T15:22:52 no zip code for you 2008-09-02T15:22:58 I'm actually in favor of pointless granularity, as long as it can be hidden by a suitable abstraction. 2008-09-02T15:23:15 Pointless just means nobody's figured out the point yet. :) 2008-09-02T15:23:49 In PINES, each profile has that perm by default, so it's abstracted enough for daily uses (i've never actually noticed it before today) 2008-09-02T15:24:35 I like to believe that other EG instances have all kinds of perm troubles related to this 2008-09-02T15:31:41 in the particular case of zips, PINES payed for a DB, so it seemed less than ideal to turn around and publish that data for free ;) 2008-09-02T15:33:37 *** mrpeters-isl has quit IRC 2008-09-02T15:33:38 atheos pasted "Here, have some zips for free" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/66219 2008-09-02T15:35:06 hahaa 2008-09-02T15:35:27 it's fugly, but it works 2008-09-02T15:35:31 atheos++ 2008-09-02T16:02:25 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T16:30:24 berick: Got what I hope is a quick question for you--phasefx sent me... I just need to do something that seems really simple, I just can't figure out where the change needs to be made. Suppose I'm setting up a DB for art works rather than books, so, in the OPAC, I just want the MODS "author" field to be labeled "Artist" rather than "Author"--where would I make a change like that (I'm lost in... 2008-09-02T16:30:26 ...the levels of indirection in the XSL templates and Javascript)? 2008-09-02T16:31:31 agJohn: /openils/var/web/opac/locale/en-US/opac.dtd 2008-09-02T16:31:39 Cool. Thanks! 2008-09-02T16:31:40 there could be different versions of the string for different pages 2008-09-02T16:31:52 Right. Gotcha. 2008-09-02T16:31:53 but a search for Author will get you started 2008-09-02T16:32:51 agJohn: see http://dwarf.cs.uoguelph.ca/opac/hy-AM/skin/default/xml/rdetail.xml?r=4926125&t=hemingway&tp=keyword&d=0&hc=877&rt=keyword for an example :) 2008-09-02T16:33:24 oh, that's a /horrible/ example ;) 2008-09-02T16:33:33 the chinese one is prettier 2008-09-02T16:34:03 Careful with that anti-Armenian sentiment online, you don't want to get Serdar Argic involved... :) 2008-09-02T16:34:31 So what language is hy? 2008-09-02T16:35:31 Armenian 2008-09-02T16:36:02 short for "hayeren lezow" 2008-09-02T16:37:13 Huh. That's quite the script.... 2008-09-02T16:37:54 agJohn: so see /openils/var/web/opac/skin/default/xml/rdetail/rdetail_summary.xml for the raw source for the page 2008-09-02T16:38:16 well, for the summary section of the page 2008-09-02T16:38:35 you'll see &common.author; -- that's the XML entity that defines the label that you want to change 2008-09-02T16:39:22 then find common.author definition in /openils/var/web/opac/locale/en-US/opac.dtd, and change it to "Artist" or "Creator" or whatever 2008-09-02T16:39:55 is there any such thing as hold expiration in trunk? 2008-09-02T16:39:58 (an unrelated questin) 2008-09-02T16:40:28 skmurphy: yeah, it's there and you can set default expire dates (by org) and control it in my-opac 2008-09-02T16:40:33 thanks 2008-09-02T16:41:27 dbs: It sounds like you've got a Chinese skin also? 2008-09-02T16:41:35 Well, not you personally.... 2008-09-02T16:42:05 agJohn: yeah, lakehead and windsor translated the OPAC but I'm not sure the translation is within easy reach 2008-09-02T16:42:23 agJohn++ 2008-09-02T16:42:29 * berick is a sucker for a silly joke 2008-09-02T16:43:44 ohhh 2008-09-02T16:43:48 * dbs is slow 2008-09-02T16:43:55 I didn't see how goofy it looked until I'd written it.... 2008-09-02T16:45:38 note also on that example page how the expansion of the text in the translation forces the page to not fit into a 1024x768 window at all at all 2008-09-02T16:52:05 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-09-02T16:53:04 can someone help me feel like an idiot, and tell me what I'm doing wrong. trying to run a report I just threw together, and when I select "save report" I'm told "Please provide a report folder". I cannot adjust the selected folder for the report's output, but it looks like it's already been selected for me. I'll probably have an aha moment two seconds after I press enter .... 2008-09-02T16:53:37 damn, no aha moment. oh well 2008-09-02T16:55:37 atheos: choose a folder instead of relying on what appears to be a pre-selected folder and see if that makes any difference 2008-09-02T16:57:07 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-09-02T16:57:20 ok, I'm figuring it out now. tkx 2008-09-02T16:57:43 -= THIS MESSAGE NOT LOGGED =- 2008-09-02T16:57:43 pinesol: forget that :) 2008-09-02T16:57:43 phasefx: Error: "forget" is not a valid command. 2008-09-02T20:36:10 *** sarabee__ has quit IRC 2008-09-02T20:41:13 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T21:04:09 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-09-02T21:29:03 *** agJohn has quit IRC 2008-09-02T21:41:45 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T22:08:10 *** rsinger_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-02T22:15:01 kgs: happy birthday! 2008-09-02T22:15:28 you're not on one of those silly LodgeNet TV gadgets, are you? 2008-09-02T22:17:25 sylvar: hi there :) what's a Lodgnet TV gadget? 2008-09-02T22:19:16 It's a set-top box that gives motel guests "Internet access" in a low-functioning browser. 2008-09-02T22:25:04 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-02T22:28:19 ah... no I have my laptop and the best wifi Wingate offers... 2008-09-02T22:29:26 Ah, good. 2008-09-02T22:30:52 kgs: in all the hubbub I failed to wish you a happy birthday! 2008-09-02T22:31:00 mea culpa :( 2008-09-02T22:31:26 awww don't be silly, it's just a basic birthday :-) 2008-09-02T22:31:30 but thanks! 2008-09-02T22:32:08 *** phase_bb has quit IRC 2008-09-02T22:38:32 * dbs sends kgs virtual cake 2008-09-02T22:39:10 :-) 2008-09-02T22:39:40 miker_: hopefully my sru / z39.50 explorations don't look too stupid to you 2008-09-02T22:41:42 the look down right wonderful to me 2008-09-02T22:44:38 they, even 2008-09-02T22:46:15 well, good :) 2008-09-02T23:19:56 *** agJohn has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-02T23:54:57 *** kgs has quit IRC