2008-09-15T01:41:59 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T01:59:35 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-09-15T02:02:25 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T08:19:35 *** bag has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T08:27:26 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T08:35:06 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-15T08:46:04 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-09-15T08:46:04 *** phasefx2_ has quit IRC 2008-09-15T08:47:01 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-15T08:50:11 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T08:50:11 *** phasefx2_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T08:51:18 *** kgs has quit IRC 2008-09-15T08:53:39 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T08:59:06 *** kgs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T09:06:44 *** wlayton has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T09:21:59 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-15T10:04:54 *** gmcharlt has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-15T10:22:53 *** Mark__T has left #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T11:03:01 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-09-15T11:24:58 dbs: I'll fix up the makefile and/or shell scripts tonight to resolve my install issue 2008-09-15T11:25:32 wlayton: cool - I was also wondering whether it has to do with /bin/sh linking to dash on Ubuntu instead of bash 2008-09-15T11:25:56 dbs: I'll keep that in my when I'm investigating it 2008-09-15T11:26:26 Might as well chase it while it's bugging me, or I'll never go back and do it 2008-09-15T11:35:36 dbs: I somehow doubt it's a dash issue - it looks like Ubuntu started pointing /bin/sh to dash back in release 6.10 2008-09-15T11:36:40 wlayton: yeah, but we made a number of changes in trunk because of dash/bash incompatibility 2008-09-15T11:37:09 I'm not saying that there might not be more to it than that, but keep it in mind as a factor 2008-09-15T11:37:36 (back in february I would have just suggested 'sudo rm /bin/sh; sudo ln -sf /bin/bash /bin/sh' 2008-09-15T11:37:49 dbs: acknowledged 2008-09-15T12:19:16 *** LaBon has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T12:20:29 Installation problem with Ubuntu 7.10; sudo make -f Makefile.install ubuntu given an error to the http://ftp.indexdata.dak/pub/yaz/yaz-2.1.56.tar.gz file 2008-09-15T12:21:56 Also when I try wget the file, there is a time out error and anonymous login error 2008-09-15T12:22:10 LaBon: does the Makfile really include "http://ftp.indexdata.dak" ? 2008-09-15T12:22:18 LaBon: does the Makefile.install really include "http://ftp.indexdata.dak" ? 2008-09-15T12:22:29 should be "http://ftp.indexdata.dk" 2008-09-15T12:22:39 Yes in the file to get the yaz-2.1.56.tar.gz file 2008-09-15T12:22:50 ugh 2008-09-15T12:22:52 I try http but get a anonymous login error 2008-09-15T12:22:55 should be http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/yaz-2.1.56.tar.gz 2008-09-15T12:24:08 FWIW, the repo version of the file has YAZ_HOST=http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz 2008-09-15T12:24:11 LaBon: can you follow the link I just posted? 2008-09-15T12:24:21 yeah, that's what I see too berick 2008-09-15T12:25:23 *** sarabee_ has quit IRC 2008-09-15T12:25:40 I also put the site/IP address in my firewall to allow access 2008-09-15T12:26:12 In the MakeFile the address is http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/yaz-2.1.56.tar.gz 2008-09-15T12:27:07 But when I run the file it give me a "Error in server response" 2008-09-15T12:27:52 LaBon: you could always download it yourself and follow the install steps manually 2008-09-15T12:29:24 basically just the two lines at http://svn.open-ils.org/trac/ILS/browser/trunk/Open-ILS/src/extras/Makefile.install#L368, substitute the filename (minus tar.gz) where it says "$(YAX)" 2008-09-15T12:29:24 *** LaBon has quit IRC 2008-09-15T12:29:29 mibbit-- 2008-09-15T12:29:59 I kinda want to bump that up to 3.0.34 anyway 2008-09-15T12:30:32 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T12:33:38 * dbs just wants to break everything before 1.4 comes out 2008-09-15T12:37:12 speaking of breaking stuff, i need to commit some code... 2008-09-15T12:50:24 berick: so far, I want to give you one increment for every line removed 2008-09-15T12:52:10 feels good, no? 2008-09-15T12:54:51 *** sarabee has quit IRC 2008-09-15T12:54:53 will undoubtedly help stop me from stumbling through some godforsaken wilderness :) 2008-09-15T12:54:59 berick++ 2008-09-15T12:56:19 *** sarabee has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T12:56:23 phasefx: not sure if yr getting trac emails, but i just assigned you a ticket 2008-09-15T12:57:21 speaking of speaking of, my first steps toward making opensrf cleanly build on OS X were just checked in. mostly utterly insignificant stuff, but autogen.sh got slightly more gooder as well. 2008-09-15T12:58:39 sboyette: saw that. excellent 2008-09-15T14:25:34 *** bag has quit IRC 2008-09-15T14:44:05 *** lisppaste6 has quit IRC 2008-09-15T14:44:21 *** lisppaste6 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T15:21:23 *** bag has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T15:30:05 berick: is $service supposed to be $opt_service in line 90 of opensrf-perl.pl? 2008-09-15T15:31:07 also, line 92 has an extra closing parenthesis 2008-09-15T15:31:57 dbs: ahh, that if block can be removed. i'll fix 2008-09-15T15:31:59 as does line 121 2008-09-15T15:33:09 changing that stuff gets me back to JPeer not being able to load all necessary values from config on this new system, which means my setup may be screwed on top of it - but at least the message is consistent with osrf_ctl.sh 2008-09-15T15:34:00 fixed, thanks dbs 2008-09-15T15:42:55 *** atheos has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-15T15:45:15 hello all, can someone point me in the direction for determining checkout-stations on circulated items. We are trying to identify how many of our items are being checked out via selfcheck for a given week. I'm in the reports, but I'm not sure where to look. 2008-09-15T15:46:58 atheos: we don't record the workstation information with each circulation, though that will be changing soon 2008-09-15T15:47:29 you can check the circ_staff to get the ID of the staff login responsible for the circ, which would be the selfcheck staff user 2008-09-15T15:47:38 but, that doesn't break it down by workstation 2008-09-15T15:47:44 note to self/all: when upgrading from osrf 0.9 -> osrf trunk/1.0, rm -fr /openils/lib/perl5/OpenSRF 2008-09-15T15:47:50 that would be enough 2008-09-15T15:48:16 so, that would be Circulation->Check In Staff ? 2008-09-15T15:48:51 atheos: circ_staff .. you can link off of that to the usrname field if you want to filter on that 2008-09-15T15:49:03 dbs: good point 2008-09-15T15:49:37 berick: my head is pointy like a pin, I just spent half an hour puzzling over why my configs weren't working 2008-09-15T15:51:17 dbs: which configs were affected by the old perl libs? 2008-09-15T15:52:36 bootstrap 2008-09-15T15:52:41 domains to domain 2008-09-15T15:52:54 ahh 2008-09-15T15:52:59 how would I use the Base Filter Operator "Between". I'm only able to insert a single date for the value 2008-09-15T15:53:29 nm, I know what I need to do 2008-09-15T16:00:06 dbs, was that really necesarry? ;) 2008-09-15T16:00:30 berick: haha :) 2008-09-15T16:14:07 who can I bribe for an "Edit Report" option? Feeling my way through the reports is quite time consuming when I have to recreate a report for each modification that I want to make. 2008-09-15T16:18:58 atheos: mv $$$$ > esilibrary.com 2008-09-15T16:19:26 ok, how much is the bounty. I've got about $10 in my pocket 2008-09-15T16:19:27 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-09-15T16:22:45 that'll get you about 12m27s dev time I think... 2008-09-15T16:32:05 atheos: you can clone them in edit mode, or is that what you're doing 2008-09-15T16:54:06 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-09-15T17:43:33 *** bag has quit IRC 2008-09-15T18:13:14 *** kgs is now known as kgs_away 2008-09-15T19:48:17 *** djfiander has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-15T19:51:06 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-15T20:03:29 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-15T20:18:44 *** grahamf has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T20:32:46 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-15T21:29:32 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-15T21:29:46 ahhh, a grahamf 2008-09-15T21:29:54 and a djfiander - we are truly blessed 2008-09-15T21:29:56 dbs: thanks for the mfhd data. bit a mess though. 2008-09-15T21:30:43 djfiander: yep, sorry about that. I didn't have time to match up the bib records and mfhd records in nice sets for you 2008-09-15T21:31:10 dbs: that's fine. MARC defines linking fields. but horizon doesn't actually always generate them ;-) 2008-09-15T21:31:36 oh, you've got horizon records too? You've been busy! 2008-09-15T21:32:06 s/horizon/sirsi/ ? Right now I'm looking at the Lancet recs. 2008-09-15T21:32:59 unicorn :) 2008-09-15T21:33:06 bah 2008-09-15T21:33:22 dbs: hey 2008-09-15T21:33:25 can I blame Abrams for the crappy data? That's all that matters 2008-09-15T21:33:29 what all horizon libraries shall eventually become - well, symphony actually 2008-09-15T21:33:42 djfiander: or you can blame us! 2008-09-15T21:34:05 well, you're responsible for the '$u9999' subfield, that's certain 2008-09-15T21:34:05 yeah, the lack of linking fields doesn't surprise me at all 2008-09-15T21:34:29 so I assume that no linking field == linked to immediately previous bib rec 2008-09-15T21:35:01 grahamf: are you getting what you need to figure out what's going on with Vandelay, between Dojo and OpenSRF? 2008-09-15T21:35:24 I remember Vandelay 2008-09-15T21:35:35 oh wait. That was "Mandelay". Whatever. 2008-09-15T21:35:40 djfiander: probably - we could always test that theory by searching ilink.laurentian.ca 2008-09-15T21:36:03 yep, I think so. Right now I'm tearing apart vandelay.(html|js), learning dojo and dijit along the way 2008-09-15T21:36:04 Not to be confused with "Man Delay(TM)", sold in finer restrooms everywhere 2008-09-15T21:36:05 later. 2008-09-15T21:36:18 grahamf: excellent 2008-09-15T21:36:30 grahamf: they're not paying you enough. 2008-09-15T21:36:32 berick suggested writing the interface for the bib/auth attribute definitions, like the stuff in the acq-experiment 2008-09-15T21:36:38 lol, who ever does 2008-09-15T21:37:25 so my evergreen career has started with copy/pase from acq to vandelay. Not an auspicious beginning but what the heck. :-) 2008-09-15T21:38:46 grahamf: when you start writing cstore queries in JSON, you'll have truly arrived... but it's all billable, baby 2008-09-15T21:38:47 unfortunately the vandelay service doesn't have CRUD for these rules yet. I spent a half-hour trying to hack it in, but backed out. I think I get most of the CRUD stuff, but not quite enough yet 2008-09-15T21:39:18 ah - so you were already hacking fm_IDL.xml? 2008-09-15T21:39:59 well, reading it. I see the connections between the IDL, and how the Perl names are formed. there's already attr_definition stuff in the IDL, just not in Vandelay.pm 2008-09-15T21:40:51 I started copying the queue CRUD stuff, to write some attrib CRUD, but they aren't quite the same animal of course 2008-09-15T21:41:24 "mandelay(tm)", yikes dbs, what kind of bathrooms do you hang out in 2008-09-15T21:41:32 on second thought, don't answer that 2008-09-15T21:41:56 grahamf: the campus pub: he just can't stop cruising the co-eds 2008-09-15T21:42:13 ah the perks of academia 2008-09-15T21:42:32 coeds, and faculty strikes 2008-09-15T21:42:33 *sigh* 2008-09-15T21:42:36 those are some perks 2008-09-15T21:45:30 has anyone thought about writing a higher-level definition language for some of these interfaces? I've only read a bit of the UI code, but there seems to be a lot of low-level plumbing that could be abstracted away 2008-09-15T21:45:51 (easy for the new guy to say things like that of course) 2008-09-15T21:46:44 I don't know how pervasive the dojo/dijit stuff is, but it would be nice to just say, "add a table here with a crud form, and hook it up to this service with these little adapters" 2008-09-15T21:47:05 and let the mid layer figure out the divs, ids, function names, etc 2008-09-15T21:50:23 brb 2008-09-15T21:51:16 grahamf: as you need access to the data, let me know and i'll make sure you can access it. we can use the auto-CRUD stuff for a some of this stuff, but not all of it 2008-09-15T21:52:05 grahamf: yes, that was my sense too. berick did something like that early on for some of it. 2008-09-15T21:52:22 the whole thing would definitely benefit from some lispy constructors and macros 2008-09-15T21:57:16 time for Eureka 2008-09-15T21:57:17 *** djfiander has quit IRC 2008-09-15T22:00:34 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-15T22:07:09 djfiander: oh Eureka, cool 2008-09-15T22:07:46 berick: thanks. I might not be too far off, re: data -- as you said, acq-experiment had something pretty close to you what you asked for 2008-09-15T22:10:21 good night for now folks 2008-09-15T22:10:25 *** grahamf has quit IRC 2008-09-15T22:12:12 for phasefx: http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=upgrading:1.2_to_1.4 2008-09-15T22:14:45 dbs: huzzah! 2008-09-15T22:15:43 phasefx: yeah, I've been through it enough times that I figured I might as well braindump 2008-09-15T22:19:31 scream or edit according to roadblocks you run into - obviously there's some schema upgrading and some apache configs to update too 2008-09-15T22:20:08 I don't remember deleting perl lib directories fumbling through it the last time.. that probably would have bitten me eventually 2008-09-15T22:20:49 that might have been before sboyette's improvements 2008-09-15T22:21:06 it would bite you horribly right at start_perl now. 2008-09-15T22:22:46 * dbs now has three different 3.7 million-bib instances of evergreen running 2008-09-15T22:23:18 most importantly, one of them against a pg_cluster init'd with locale C, vs. en-CA for the other two 2008-09-15T22:23:36 holdings too? 2008-09-15T22:24:03 phasefx: No, not yet. 2008-09-15T22:24:29 you have them temporarily transcendent? 2008-09-15T22:24:37 loaded holdings on our 700K LU consortium only instance back in May 2008-09-15T22:24:43 phasefx: yep 2008-09-15T22:24:53 coool 2008-09-15T22:25:15 defined one new bib source for each of our major libraries, so I can disable transcendence for each source as I load holdings 2008-09-15T22:25:59 but right now - I have *@*!& admin work to do for that demonspawn legacy system 2008-09-15T22:26:27 dbs: have to run some reports with side effects? :) 2008-09-15T22:27:05 no, have to define a new location, environment + user, and a custom script, to transfer selected items from one library / location to another 2008-09-15T22:27:43 ugh, fun fun 2008-09-15T22:27:45 (can't batch it because it's a subset of items with no automatable criteria for defining the subset, so some sucker has to scan in several filing cabinets full of musical scores) 2008-09-15T22:29:36 I suppose the EG approach would be to scan all copies into a bucket, then use a bucket operation to move the copies/callnumbers into the new library/location? 2008-09-15T22:30:46 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-15T22:30:50 well, except that buckets and the item attribute editor can only effectively handle a few hundred items before getting painful.. need to implement meat grinders in the middle layer rather than have that logic in the client 2008-09-15T22:32:41 but some folks are doing things like that with smaller batches.. they're lucky enough to be able to run reports for item barcodes, export them as csv, and then use Item Status and Upload from File. A direct report to bucket feature would be nice 2008-09-15T22:34:29 ah, reports with side effects 2008-09-15T22:34:44 more like Output to buckets 2008-09-15T22:35:08 well, output is a side effect, I guess :) 2008-09-15T22:35:30 true, true 2008-09-15T22:35:58 I want to blend copy buckets and Item status interfaces together at some point 2008-09-15T22:40:17 or at least have a way to scan directly into a bucket rather than scan and then add to bucket 2008-09-15T22:43:36 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-15T22:43:44 I would vote for that. 2008-09-15T22:45:44 have you looked at the Record Bucket interface in trunk? what do you think of that direction? 2008-09-15T22:47:26 has 3 tabs, one is for searching the catalog (but with a xul interface), the middle one is a staging/pending area, and the 3rd is t he bucket 2008-09-15T22:48:13 can't say I've spent much time looking at it - sorry :( 2008-09-15T22:48:54 s'okay. I left a few things undone in trunk I need to work on before 1.4 is cut, that's one of them :) 2008-09-15T22:48:59 mostly when I've been looking at the staff client, it's in armenian or french (or broken, and me trying to figure out how to unbreak it) 2008-09-15T22:49:19 yeah... hey, how about that logic dependent on strings? :) 2008-09-15T22:49:48 I told Mike I was going to try to find time this week for that.. at least the item attribute editor one.. maybe not the Today + 3 days thing 2008-09-15T22:56:16 hey, one bit at a time works for me 2008-09-15T22:58:45 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-15T23:56:10 *** dbs has quit IRC