2008-09-26T00:04:13 wow. totally missed the pgsql 8.2.10 release. upgraded on one machine, now 2008-09-26T00:19:04 * jeff moves some data from 7.3.4 to 8.1.11 and grins 2008-09-26T00:29:52 * dbs edges away from jeff nervously 2008-09-26T00:30:01 sounds like debian to me 2008-09-26T00:38:22 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T00:44:14 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-09-26T01:27:33 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2008-09-26T01:48:52 *** Mark__T has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T03:30:29 *** gmcharlt_ has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-26T03:40:09 *** gmcharlt has quit IRC 2008-09-26T06:39:55 *** kgs_away has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T06:55:42 *** kgs_away is now known as kgs 2008-09-26T07:43:21 *** rickd_ has quit IRC 2008-09-26T07:44:35 *** rickd has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-26T08:33:54 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T09:07:05 *** wlayton has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T09:13:22 anyone want to brainstorm hackfest ideas for Access? 2008-09-26T09:14:28 socialize bookbags or EG in general (maybe provide an Insurge SOPAC 2.0 compatibility layer)? 2008-09-26T09:16:07 ooh, I'd love to see the ability to consume bookbags 2008-09-26T09:16:07 add random stuff to bookbags (so profs or whoever can add their own items with title/author/publication and link to something; maybe upload stuff) 2008-09-26T09:17:24 add hierarchy + sorting to bookbags (so you could, you know, have assigned reading for book clubs)? 2008-09-26T09:17:51 lots of that stuff might be better served outside of EG proper though, since it's so easy to link to resources. damn you and your persistent urls 2008-09-26T09:17:54 annotations, tagging 2008-09-26T09:18:19 yeah - classify under "socialize" 2008-09-26T09:20:58 make zotero work with evergreen 2008-09-26T09:21:19 works now, doesn't it? could work better 2008-09-26T09:21:29 http://forums.zotero.org/discussion/4069/detecting-unapi-in-dynamic-content/#Item_0 2008-09-26T09:21:33 works with slimpac 2008-09-26T09:21:34 works with slimpac, but not with main 2008-09-26T09:22:06 yeah, and how much traffic are you seeing on slimpac? :) 2008-09-26T09:22:14 :) 2008-09-26T09:22:28 other than from ip addresses in sudbury, I mean 2008-09-26T09:22:49 dbs: just got your naco_normalize question ... I've been quiet in here, I guess 2008-09-26T09:23:00 miker_: well, gee, vacation and all that 2008-09-26T09:23:08 does it make any sense to you? 2008-09-26T09:23:48 your question did, yes 2008-09-26T09:23:49 ... slim-drupal-pac 2008-09-26T09:24:14 tagging would be relatively easy, btw (at least, with the plan in my head) 2008-09-26T09:24:59 that's the beauty of having everything in a database 2008-09-26T09:26:17 tagging == bookbags with a different btype ("tag" perhaps ;) ) where the container name is the tag and you search the item table to gather the tags currently in use 2008-09-26T09:26:42 auto-vivicate containers that you don't own with the tag name you want to use 2008-09-26T09:27:19 geez, i'm so old-school 0.5 in my implementation thoughts 2008-09-26T09:28:52 (I would have started with "create table tags (id serial, userid bigint, bibid bigint, tag text);" and gone straight to hell) 2008-09-26T09:29:41 heh ... well, that's basically what containers + items does, but with more normalization ;) 2008-09-26T09:31:48 *** gmcharlt_ is now known as gmcharlt 2008-09-26T09:33:34 whatever mechanism we come up for advertising shared tags might also be applicable to advertising shared bookbags 2008-09-26T09:34:43 phasefx: for tags, you want them to show up (if they're public) automatically ... if they're exposed the same way then they're the same thing, no? 2008-09-26T09:35:46 I don't think you want "books I have read" to come up in the same context as "gardening", but I could be wrong 2008-09-26T09:35:48 they serve different purposes in my mind. tags are for classification and re-discovery, bookbags are for local collection 2008-09-26T09:36:13 when I think about sharing bookbags, I imagine things like iMixes in iTunes 2008-09-26T09:36:25 a recommendation mechanism 2008-09-26T09:36:29 phasefx: right, that's my point ... bookbags are personal (though sharable) but tags are public (though hidable) 2008-09-26T09:37:18 yeah, though I think it would be neat to be able to turn them on their heads on occassion 2008-09-26T09:37:43 tags would be better for recommendation, I think ... in theory, at least, they're about "alternate classification", where bookbags are about "thing that I want next to each other" 2008-09-26T09:38:18 I could see a "tag all the books in this bookbag with X" interface 2008-09-26T09:38:57 a complimentary "Show me booklists containing this title" 2008-09-26T09:39:05 *** Mark__T has quit IRC 2008-09-26T09:39:22 sure 2008-09-26T09:39:37 well, isn't that tags? 2008-09-26T09:39:49 s/booklists/tags/ 2008-09-26T09:40:07 but ... in any case, either would be good 2008-09-26T09:40:09 yeah, bookbags are tags, just in an inconvenient form for some purposes 2008-09-26T09:40:26 we're talking past each other 2008-09-26T09:40:31 they are completely different to me 2008-09-26T09:40:42 probably :) I was just idly musing ideas 2008-09-26T09:42:20 you guys have a business to run! stop thinking. 2008-09-26T09:46:17 so anyway, miker_ - if you see what I'm doing wrong with the naco stuff, lemme know 2008-09-26T09:46:45 dbs: well ... the version in the database works, so I wonder what the difference is 2008-09-26T09:47:44 probably magical Perl / unicode switches 2008-09-26T09:47:50 I wonder if the difference is that the data embedded in the script is not in the encoding that perl expects it to be in 2008-09-26T09:47:55 right 2008-09-26T09:51:25 ahh, a little "use Encode;" and decode_utf8() fixed that right up. 2008-09-26T09:52:02 sweet! miker_++ 2008-09-26T09:52:38 ;) 2008-09-26T09:52:48 you and your utf-8 shell ;) 2008-09-26T09:53:46 heh - it's getting harder and harder to avoid that, man 2008-09-26T09:54:15 (and I, of course, embrace it with all my witless heart) 2008-09-26T10:29:45 oh berick, you and your sensible suggestions 2008-09-26T10:34:43 heh, well, "use windows" and "use wine" are two options i rarely accept ;) 2008-09-26T10:40:20 berick: moi aussi, but never thought to just grab an aged linux binary 2008-09-26T10:42:26 if you're lucky, it will have giant security holes! ;) 2008-09-26T10:43:58 and it does, with the staff client, if you're linking to outside content in your embedded web pages 2008-09-26T10:44:26 btw - we have an excellent EDI contractor lined up and should be able to have them going within a week or two. someone who has actually worked with EDI at a deep level. 2008-09-26T10:44:37 excellent 2008-09-26T10:45:06 berick: It should also be noted that libstdc++5 may also need to be apt-get'ted on Ubuntu 8.04. XULRunner 1.8.x wouldn't run for me until I did that. 2008-09-26T10:45:12 dbs: awesome 2008-09-26T10:45:51 wlayton: ah yeah, that sounds familiar 2008-09-26T11:03:26 *** bag has quit IRC 2008-09-26T11:32:08 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-09-26T11:34:22 *** wlayton has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T12:04:40 *** _dkyle_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T12:59:11 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T13:06:11 *** rickd has quit IRC 2008-09-26T13:13:35 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-09-26T13:15:01 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T13:15:32 hebrew.marc++ 2008-09-26T13:16:24 yeah - that came from the VUFind list where Yitzchak offered to send test records; I just requested a copy for EG 2008-09-26T13:18:10 cool 2008-09-26T13:19:38 i wonder if mods deals with linking fields for alternate charset representation of primary fields... should be fun :) 2008-09-26T13:19:43 food 2008-09-26T13:25:59 dbs: if you mean 880 fields, no it does not (through 3.2 anyway) 2008-09-26T13:36:00 yeah, watch, that'll be what pushes us to 3.3 2008-09-26T13:38:51 nope, 880 does not appear in MARC21slim2MODS3-3.xsl 2008-09-26T13:39:23 now I'll have to join the MODS task force 2008-09-26T13:57:58 *** _dkyle_ has left #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T14:01:08 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-09-26T14:03:33 *** error23 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T14:23:11 *** error23 has quit IRC 2008-09-26T14:26:35 *** error_23 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T14:35:59 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T14:36:17 I'll dump the yaz packages onto open-ils.org 2008-09-26T14:36:25 obviously he's firewalled from .dk sites 2008-09-26T14:36:44 dbs: ah, was wondering if it would come to that 2008-09-26T14:36:48 hi, dbs 2008-09-26T14:36:50 * miker_ is afraid to look 2008-09-26T14:37:23 it's pro writer error_23! 2008-09-26T14:37:41 thas me! 2008-09-26T14:37:54 writin' and drinking turkish coffee 2008-09-26T14:38:11 ooh, yaz 3.0.36 is out 2008-09-26T14:43:49 mmmm turkish coffee. 2008-09-26T14:56:26 dbs: http://www.sitepen.com/blog/2008/09/26/couchdbreststore/ 2008-09-26T14:59:37 * dbs also notes that dojo 1.2 is in release candidate "please help us find bugs" phase 2008-09-26T15:00:02 * dbs is in "trying to put together academic dossier for contract renewal in next two hours" phase 2008-09-26T15:04:07 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2008-09-26T15:07:00 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T15:47:00 *** rsinger has quit IRC 2008-09-26T16:21:53 *** David has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-26T16:22:24 *** David is now known as Guest14532 2008-09-26T16:25:12 *** Guest14532 is now known as dchris 2008-09-26T16:32:32 *** rsinger has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-26T16:33:54 *** dchris has quit IRC 2008-09-26T16:36:52 *** David has joined #OpenILS-Evergreen 2008-09-26T16:37:03 *** David is now known as dchris 2008-09-26T16:38:47 *** mib_20g2t8 has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T16:54:01 *** bag_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T17:01:38 *** wlayton has quit IRC 2008-09-26T17:02:40 *** dchris has quit IRC 2008-09-26T17:23:13 *** bag_ has quit IRC 2008-09-26T18:17:58 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T18:20:38 *** miker_ has quit IRC 2008-09-26T18:25:55 *** miker_ has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T18:28:38 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2008-09-26T18:33:57 *** dbs has quit IRC 2008-09-26T19:10:39 *** jamesrf has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T19:21:58 *** jfournie has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T19:22:44 *** jamesrf has quit IRC 2008-09-26T19:36:28 *** jfournie has quit IRC 2008-09-26T22:06:45 *** dbs has joined #openils-evergreen 2008-09-26T22:08:47 * dbs gets excited by http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/oddmuse/index.cgi/Tsearch_84