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#evergreen Logs for Tuesday, December 15th, 2009

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#04:23:43phasefx_dbs: insomniac?
#04:25:35dbsyep. and you? :)
#04:26:33phasefx_yeah, though I'm sure my eyes are red
#04:27:13dbsI was able to sleep for 3 or 4 hours. oddly enough, i'm not working on what I was thinking about while lying in bed trying to sleep
#04:27:22phasefx_:D
#04:27:23dbs(eg conference proposal... what to do, what to do)
#04:28:58phasefx_just curious, does Conifer make use of patron groups?
#04:38:27dbsphasefx: not patron groups
#04:38:49dbslots and lots of perm groups, but no grouped patrons. yet. haven't found a good use case, I guess
#04:40:32phasefx_ nods
#04:40:51phasefx_be better once we support multiple groupings per patron (or patron buckets)
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#10:17:48StuartOk Guys. Still having trouble connecting to a new install of 1.4.0.7 with staff client. I cn run the cgi scripts in browser & connct via srfsh. When I enter the u/name and p/word in the Staff Client (admin / open-ils) I notice the line in the apache access.log '"POST /osrf-gateway-v1 HTTP/1.1" 404 345 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070321"' Isearched my system for the "osrf-gateway-v1" dir but
#10:22:26phasefxStuart: that won't exist as a file or directory, it's being handled by an apache module. I'd scrutinize your apache configs
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#12:56:26natschildoes the eg init script live somewhere, or are there only various versions scattered around the place?
#12:58:08natschilhttp://paste.lisp.org/display/87720 seems nice, but it somehow doesn't work..I'll need to check what's wrong with it
#12:58:40moodaeponatschil: there was one that came on to the mailing list recently I liked...so I merged it with mine
#12:58:53moodaepomoodaepo==anoopa
#12:59:41moodaeponatschil: http://svn.mnpals.net/viewvc/evergreen/egdemo/var/system-scripts/ check out the file evergreen-init_d
#13:00:59moodaepoIt works for me on Ubuntu Hardy, haven't tested on anything else.
#13:03:01natschilmoodaepo: allright.cool...I see it does more than just starting evergreen, which is good.
#13:04:35natschilmoodaepo: you might want to consider rm /openils/var/run/*.pid in the start() section, so it doesn't screw up if there are old pidfiles.
#13:05:06moodaeponatschil: I had that in the old one and with EG 1.6 I don't think I needed it anymore
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#13:08:43natschilmoodaepo: strange, I seem to need it here, with evergreen 1.6, though only on unclean shutdown
#13:11:27moodaeponatschil: Hmm how can I re-create an unclean shutdown?
#13:12:09phasefxturn off the power
#13:12:27moodaepophasefx++
#13:12:50natschilmake the stop) option of your script do nothing.
#13:13:06gmcharltcat /dev/random | xargs kill -9
#13:13:36natschilhow can I check if the reporter is running?
#13:13:53gmcharltlook for a process named clark-kent.pl
#13:14:30natschilgmcharlt: crap, I was fearing that...it doesn't exist. time to find out why.
#13:15:38natschilwhere does the reporter log to? somehow it isn't started with clark-kent.pl
#13:16:48natschilif I start the reporter with clark-kent.pl --daemon, it creates a lock file. if not, it doesn't. The actual process doesn't seem to exist though,.
#13:17:45natschilThere is a process that has the following line in ps " 4033 ? Ss 0:00 Clark Kent, waiting for trouble"
#13:18:08gmcharltthat's the one
#13:18:47natschilstrange...why do I need --damon to start it, and why does /tmp/reporter-LOCK have the wrong pid in it/
#13:20:01moodaeponatschil: I think that's for the process that starts the daemon, look through the clark-kent.pl script
#13:20:57natschilmoodaepo: I added sleep 1 after the actual command that starts the reporter, and now starting the reporter also works...seems that it checked for the reporter before it was actually started.
#13:21:07natschilotherwise, your script is great though. thanks for the help
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#13:23:37moodaeponatschil: This is the script I based the one I use on > http://list.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-dev/2009-December/005510.html
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#14:11:24anoopaCan anyone clarify what hold_verify means as mentioned here > http://www.open-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=feature_list_1_2_4
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#15:00:35mrpeters-islhey all - any ideas on what this error is indicating? TypeError: g.my_libs_ou_hash[default_lib] is undefined
#15:04:24moodaepomrpeters-isl > http://markmail.org/message/x5ipjex4irihhz3j (?)
#15:04:35phasefx_happens during workstation registration.. perhaps missing work locations for the staff member
#15:04:48mrpeters-islyep - phasefx_ thought that too, but i set work ou
#15:05:45phasefx_maybe the depth on the staff's REGISTER_WORKSTATION permission
#15:05:55phasefx_resulting in no effective work ou's
#15:06:24phasefx_though that should produce a more understandable error.. hrm
#15:07:35mrpeters-islphasefx_ its a localadmin - by default, they should be able to register for a system...let me make sure they have that
#15:08:07phasefx_autogen should be another thing to try, like the markmail thread
#15:08:11mrpeters-islyeah, this user has REGISTER WORKSTATION at the system level
#15:08:15mrpeters-island yes, ive done an autogen too
#15:09:24phasefx_the code being ran is server/main/ws_info.xul. Could sprinkle it with debug statements, or use the javascript debugger if that's available on your login window
#15:09:35dbsdamn, that sounds really familiar. hmm
#15:09:44phasefx_could be a network call failing to return results
#15:09:52mrpeters-islbut only on this one user?
#15:09:59phasefx_for fetching the descendant org units (of the selected work locations)
#15:10:02dbsother users work?
#15:10:06mrpeters-islyes
#15:10:16mrpeters-isli can register a workstation on this same machine with admin account
#15:10:30dbsany other users?
#15:11:52mrpeters-isllet me try with another localadmin of the same ou
#15:14:28mrpeters-islsame thing
#15:14:57phasefx_what depth is that ou?
#15:16:10mrpeters-islbranch
#15:18:21dbswould be interesting to see what value default_lib has, if any
#15:18:38mrpeters-islin whhich table?
#15:19:42phasefx_looks like the user's home_ou is the default_lib
#15:20:09phasefx_which sounds like crufty code to me
#15:20:51phasefx_I bet this is a case of the home_ou being totally unrelated to the work ou's
#15:21:55mrpeters-islinteresting
#15:22:01mrpeters-isli may be on to something here
#15:23:58mrpeters-islgot it
#15:24:10mrpeters-islsomehow, home_ou didnt match work_ou
#15:24:16mrpeters-islmanually updating that in db fixed it up
#15:24:43mrpeters-islthanks guys
#15:24:45phasefx_I'll put some defense against that in trunk, test it later
#15:24:49lisppaste3moodaepo pasted "CONFIG_RULES_CIRC_DURATION_NOT_FOUND" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/92161
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#15:26:36moodaepoAny thoughts on the paste?
#15:28:27phasefx_check your circ_duration.js, make sure every value assigned to result.durationRule exists in the table config.rule_circ_duration
#15:29:17mrpeters-islmoodaepo: SELECT * FROM config.rule_circ_duration;
#15:29:20mrpeters-isldoes that duration exist?
#15:30:11moodaepophasefx_ mrpeters-isl From the error message I can't tell which rule to look for...am I just being dense?
#15:30:55phasefx_moodaepo: that's why i say check all of them :) do some grep/perl/awk foo to get a list from the javascript file
#15:31:21phasefx_the value likely appears somewhere in the logs
#15:31:22moodaepophasefx_ Right! Checking.
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#15:38:07dbwellsGood afternoon folks. I am currently experimenting with various in-db circ policies, and I am wondering if the observed behavior is the intended behavior.
#15:39:48dbwellsSpecifically, if one sets a rule for a specific org_unit, is it meant that those rules apply to items owned by that org_unit or items circulated by that org_unit?
#15:41:16dbwellsI had expected an owning relationship, but got a circulating one.
#15:43:58dbwellsAlso note that when I say circulating ou, I mean the ou of the registered workstation, not the ou set as the "Circulation Library" in the item attributes.
#15:44:42phasefx_I would have expected the in-db rules to be flexible in this regard
#15:51:08dbwellsWell, based on my experimenting, they are flexible enough to cover all the bases, but generally only with some duplication. Any cascading rule-set will favor some needs over others, so I guess it might be a matter of deciding whether circ rules based on workstation ou are more common than those based on owning ou.
#15:51:40dbwellsIn my case the opposite is needed, but that is only my case.
#16:07:16moodaepoIn 1.6 do we still setup circ-rules via the bootstrapping scripts?
#16:11:35phasefx_yeah, I think the conify interface doesn't have those yet (the end-point circ rules--those config.rule tables, as opposed to the circ logic tables)
#16:16:41sboyettepeople ask about postgres versions a lot; as a datapoint, the buildbot has been building on top of debian-testing's standard 8.4 packages since friday.
#16:17:37moodaepophasefx_ Ah ok
#16:17:42moodaeposboyette++
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#19:35:04godzilla8njis a web-enabled staff client for evergreen available/in beta/planned?
#20:00:36jamesrf_godzilla8nj: i don't know the 'plan' for anything as there's no current roadmap, but chunks of the staff client are web-accessible already
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